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Old 11/11/10, 1:43 PM
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Old 1/28/11, 2:37 AM
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Wow...this sucks...an argument and I am not in it!

Why would the part timers care it not like they have to put "PART TIMER" logo on their site. I think its unfair that Billy gets to put "Active Air Force Service member on his site and gets to promote that. I guess there is a way to cure that...JOIN THE AIR FORCE or shut up are my choices.

I think its unfair John ShiShilla get to put licensed Contractor on his site. People will think more of him! Then I have another choice GO GET MY CONTRACTORS LICENSE.

I don't think the problem is fee structure. I think the problem is people are getting paid what they are worth. WHICH IS CRAP, for some and thats what they are worth. I have no idea whats its like outside of my area, but here in SW Florida people are so fed up with crap craftsmanship they are willing to pay more for quality. You just have to convince them YOUR the QUALITY they are looking for.

I hear several say, "work is very slow" and they are not good at marketing. Well then your ALWAYS going to be slow. MARKETING is ALL there is.

I could care less about the full time /part time logo. When I pull up they have no doubt I am full time.

Now if they had a SENIOR certified master inspector who has like 10 years as an inspector and like 5000 inspections...NOW YOUR TALKING!
Had to drag this thread back to say "Russell" that was a great answer that I overlooked back in November.
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Old 1/28/11, 2:16 PM
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I agree with Billy. Being called "Parttime" carries a stigma of being less professional in the perceptions of most people regardless of the "parttimer's" qualifications. There is NOTHING to the premise that a parttime inspector is less qualified than a full time HI. It depends on many factors, not just how many inspections he/she can get a month.

This differentiation between "full time" and "parttime" is nonsense, discriminatory, and biased. I would think the goal of InterNACHI would be to foster the development of aspiring entrants into the HI field and help them through their (most likely part time) development into full time HIs without putting another hurdle in their way. This is NOT like the "family owned business" example.
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Old 1/28/11, 3:06 PM
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I agree with Billy. Being called "Parttime" carries a stigma of being less professional in the perceptions of most people regardless of the "parttimer's" qualifications. There is NOTHING to the premise that a parttime inspector is less qualified than a full time HI. It depends on many factors, not just how many inspections he/she can get a month.

This differentiation between "full time" and "parttime" is nonsense, discriminatory, and biased. I would think the goal of InterNACHI would be to foster the development of aspiring entrants into the HI field and help them through their (most likely part time) development into full time HIs without putting another hurdle in their way. This is NOT like the "family owned business" example.
While I would certainly understand why you would feel that way, I disagree. What is your full time job, if I may ask?



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Old 1/28/11, 5:06 PM
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I agree with Billy B. for several reasons.

It is nonsense to assume a "parttime" inspector is necessarily less qualified, less motivated, or even less experienced than a "full time" HI. This issue seems like it is more like begrudging the unavoidable competition that can, and will, come along.

As Billy said, most HIs begin as parttimers. This business is well-suited for exactly that. A "parttimer" may be that because of a number of circumstances; lack of population density, breaking into an already well-established territory, difficult/cliqueish real estate agencies, etc. It takes a while to get established.

InterNACHI should be fostering entrepreneurs motivated enough to go through all the hoops and get their certifications and keep trying to improve themselves through more/continued education. Dividing the ranks will only cause rancor among the membership.

The example of "family-owned business" is like apples and oranges to this issue. It is not the same by a long shot.

I urge a slower, more carefully thoughtout approach to this issue.
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A lot of Full-timers are de facto Part-timers these days.



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Old 1/28/11, 5:27 PM
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See it for what it is fellers....some full timers can't scare enough work up and they are blaming it on part timers. They fear you for you don't have to cut your prices to stay in business. If they were all that they profess they would be working more than typing.
See it for what it is.....



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Old 1/28/11, 5:32 PM
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I see "full time" versus "part time" as not so much based upon a 40 hour work week calculation...but as a degree or level of commitment.

I will use myself as an example so as not to appear to be singling anyone out.

I devote 100% of my working hours to being a professional inspector. Because the real estate sales industry is in the pits and there is not enough home inspections to fill an entire week, I have shifted my concentration to energy efficiency inspections. I charge more for them than home inspections and am doing quite well with them.

I know of some other professional inspectors who are concentrating on ancillary services such as radon, mold and termite to stay busy. A few are doing septic inspections as well.

All of our time, efforts and experience is directed toward the area that we are 100% committed to....and that is the profession of being a full time inspector.

This discussion began as a discussion on high turnover and what causes it. High turnover, in my opinion and in the opinion of others, can in large part be attributed to a lack of a 100% commitment.

The advertisements are lies. This is not a "part time job with full time pay" that a forklift driver can do on evenings and weekends until one magic day when he has enough business to quit his job and ride the tidal wave of bookings that miraculously appear.

It is like any business venture. Without 100% commitment to it you are simply biding your time until you have to cash in your chips, sell your unused equipment on eBay, and find a job with a regular paycheck.



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