2009 - The Year of the Repeal

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Correct.

You did this immediately after Jeff Barnes informed you that (1) you would not be appointed to the committee exploring education policies in Kansas and (2) that on-line videos (like those produced by NACHI Tv) would not be given credit for CEUs.

It was your betrayal of us...prior to Barnes' betrayal of you....that lost you the support of many of us in Kansas and Missouri, Nick.

With your permission, I'd be happy to publish emails containing other unsolicited promises of support that never came to fruition.

How is helping to fight your cause, as Nick's letter states, a betrayal?

Did Nick do EVERTHING you demanded? No. Why should he?
Your not the Pope.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Correct.


Again...this thread really has nothing to do with you, Nick...what you did or what you didn't do is in the past.

Then why bash Nick if it has nothing to do with him?

Today, we have an opportunity to turn over a variety of bad laws...with or without your help or endorsement....the means is available to us. There are emails coming in that possibly could make national news if the cases are taken by one of these civil liberty lawyers.

It's a worthy fight and one that we can win. The past is the past...but the future can be brighter as we take advantage of the opportunities that are available to us, today.

Your tone is changing. That's more like it.
Your not going to make progress at InterNACHI by bashing Nick.

[klott]

JB, are you north of the border?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by klott

JB, are you north of the border?

Which border, Ken?

[klott]

Canadian?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by klott

Canadian?

Nope.

From the emails I am getting from Texas on the topic of this thread, McKenna's erotic attraction to all things TREC are not shared by too many of his fellow inspectors.

Overturning laws that were initially designed to advantage one group over another is a decent and humanitarian way to reduce State budgets at a time where revenues are declining, sharply.

I encourage anyone who would like to have the same control over his business and future as his grocer to consider that NOW is the time to get these laws repealed.

[Nick Gromicko]

BTW: I don't deny that I believe it in InterNACHI member's best interests to have InterNACHI's courses approved by states.

I don't think this is any big revelation considering www.nachi.org/education.htm Stick to pointing out the obvious. Pointing out the over obvious is silly.

Furthermore, I've always been a supporter of online education because I think online education has advantages over classroom courses. Note the author of this article: http://www.nachi.org/classroomsharm.htm So again, a board that is stuck in the past, with mere classroom courses, harms and even may cause deaths of consumers. Members of such old-minded licensing boards should be shamed publicly for the harm they cause us all.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Jim, publish the emails of financial support so I can see them.

What are you referring to, specifically? I don't want to publish the wrong thing. I'm angry at you, but I do not wish to harm you in any way.

There are several...some include names of individuals...one is entitled "Top Secret"...

[klott]

JB, don't let the Sun go down on your anger.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I admit I share some of Jim's anger and disappointment at Nick. I have tried to get a straight answer on what NACHI's policy on home inspector licensure. So far I have gotten nothing but vague answers.
I have a lot of respect for Nick. He has done a lot for the home inspection industry. In the same, I have a lot of respect for Jim because without him, I feel, the Realtors would have gotten control of the home inspection industry just as they have in many other states.
Too bad they could not work together on a common ground. It is our loss, not Jim's or Nick's, NACHI members could have benefited in many ways.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Too bad they could not work together on a common ground. It is our loss, not Jim's or Nick's, NACHI members could have benefited in many ways.

Compromise on home inspector licensing never works, it is akin to two foxes and a chicken voting on what to have for dinner. Personally for me trying to find the benefit in home inspector licensing for home inspectors, is kinda like trying to pick up a turd from the clean end. Unless you peddle home inspector exams or teach others how to pass exams, just get over the notion that any good can come from it and everything begins to make sense.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jbraun

I admit I share some of Jim's anger and disappointment at Nick. I have tried to get a straight answer on what NACHI's policy on home inspector licensure. So far I have gotten nothing but vague answers.
I have a lot of respect for Nick. He has done a lot for the home inspection industry. In the same, I have a lot of respect for Jim because without him, I feel, the Realtors would have gotten control of the home inspection industry just as they have in many other states.
Too bad they could not work together on a common ground. It is our loss, not Jim's or Nick's, NACHI members could have benefited in many ways.

With 50% of InterNACHI members that are pro licensing and 50%
who are against it, what should Nick do?

Regarding Realtors controlling inspectors....

In Texas, 99% of the realtors who know me, will not
refer me to their clients. They call me the deal killer. They
wish they could stop me from inspecting their homes.

How are they controlling me?

The TREC SoP is the most exhaustive in the nation. Inspectors
are required to reveal more and more information every year.

I do not include the realtor in my E&O insurance policy. I do not
solicit them or seek their help.

Realtors are invisible to me. How do they controll me?

InterNACHI is thriving and home inspectors are still doing very
well in many parts of Texas.

We have been licensed since 1985 and it's no big deal.
Licensing is not the cause of HI failure IMHO.

I just don't buy it. It's just an excuse that people latch on to.

Hair dressers have to go through more education and training
than home inspectors, even in Texas.

We can do it.

[Nick Gromicko]

Good post. And despite all the fears of REALTORs controlling inspection licensing boards, the real problems all come from diploma mill ASHI members on licensing boards, and everyone knows it. ASHI has ZERO entrance requirements, is it any wonder that they push for crappy, low-requirement licensing?

TREC (the agency in charge of home inspector licensing in Texas) stands for the Texas Real Estate Commission... and they are a joy to work with IMHO. Given a choice, I'd rather work (and break bread) with a REALTOR over a diploma mill financial supporter any day.

[Nick Gromicko]

I have tried to get a straight answer on what NACHI's policy on home inspector licensure. So far I have gotten nothing but vague answers.

Our policy has been posted on this message board many, many times. InterNACHI does not take a position on any legislation (good or bad) unless it is particularly InterNACHI unfriendly. InterNACHI has done a tremendous amount of lobbying in states like Kentucky, New Jersey, Michigan, Washington, Pensylvania, New Hampshire, etc., but in each case, we concentrated on making the legislation association neutral, and in each case, succeeded.

Given an even playing field (no licensing or association-neutral licensing), InterNACHI members, with the success tools InterNACHI provides them, will run rings around their non-member competitors, every time.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

ASHI only supports licensing because of their connection with the NHIE. If it weren't for that I believe their stance would be neutral because the percentage of members who support licensing are are similar to what is represented here a 50/50 split.

The difference of course is that those in power at ASHI are pro-licensing, whereas for a long time the voice of anti-licensing was centered here at NACHI.

Good thing is that the recession should stall major moves at the state level due to budget constraints and the NHIE will be hard pressed to continue to piss away big dollars for lobbyists without results, but in the end licensing will prevail to the detriment of us all.

The best thing that could happen for us anti-licensing proponents is for the NHIE go out of business due to an extended recession, or be acquired by a neutral testing entity like ICC, then the push to license states through lobbyists would be reduced. One can only hope.