American Council for Accredited Certification (ACAC) approved our mold courses today

[Nick Gromicko]

You do realize that IAC2 has as just one of its core requirements.... membership in InterNACHI which in turn requires www.nachi.org/rigorous2006.htm ?

I read the links. It appears they have the opinion that a certification shouldn't come from the organization that developed the training. IAC2 doesn't develop training, but nevertheless... I seriously doubt that thinking will gain much traction, what with every college and university in the world issuing certifications and diplomas based on courses they both develop and teach. I think they're swimming upstream with that one.

But I wish them luck and am happy they approved our mold courses.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Brian, when I talk about their criteria I am talking about this you posted. http://www.acac.org/forms/otherpdfs/NOCA1100.pdf

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

You do realize that IAC2 has as just one of its core requirements.... membership in InterNACHI which in turn requires www.nachi.org/rigorous2006.htm ?

I read the links. It appears they have the opinion that a certification shouldn't come from the organization that developed the training. IAC2 doesn't develop training, but nevertheless... I seriously doubt that thinking will gain much traction, what with every college and university in the world issuing certifications and diplomas based on courses they both develop and teach. I think they're swimming upstream with that one.

But I wish them luck and am happy they approved our mold courses.

That's OK Nick. ANSI standards are only recognized around the world by professionals like engineers and the like.......can't really mean much or be a good idea!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...ards_Institute

[Nick Gromicko]

I'm glad they liked our mold courses.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbraun

If you are the most knowledgeable in your area, why keep it a secret.

Our Super Low Price Special!

Certified Home Inspections starting as low as $245

Why is the best in the area area having to advertise such "Super Low Prices"?

"Mold Air Sampling

The best way to determine if considered toxic mold is present. Taken to the IESO testing standard. Samples analyzed by an Industrial Hygienist, who is the top mold expert in the state."

What species have the experts considered to be "toxic" and at what levels of "contamination" are they "toxic"? Scare tactics such as these are dismaying to many experts................

•• John Bower, owner, The Healthy House Institute, Bloomington, Ind.:
"The worst thing that has happened to the indoor air quality marketplace in the last year or so is mould. This is because much of the media coverage is designed to sensationalize the topic and frighten the public - so much so, that the word 'mould' always seems to be preceded by the adjective 'toxic'. Thus, homeowners and building managers are scared to death of any minor infestation that might possibly be toxic mould, and they often ignore other health issues, such as combustion byproducts, VOC’s, second-hand tobacco smoke and poor ventilation."

•• Dr. Joseph Lstiburek, president, Building Science Corp., Westford, Mass.: "The biggest news is the insurance people getting out of covering mould claims. This is great news because the easy money is gone. Now we are dealing with real money——yours and mine; insurance money was always viewed as someone else's. Now, attorneys are wary of taking mould cases on contingency. They actually have to work for their money" (and you still have to pay them whether you win or lose- our comment)


•• Larry D. Robertson, president and CEO, Mycotech Biological Inc, Jewett, Texas: "As industry leaders, our failure to have in place an appropriate outlet for public knowledge and education has resulted in gross misrepresentations and misunderstandings of basic Indoor Air Quality fundamentals."

Other quotes:

"If you see it or smell it, you do not have to test for it. It is more important to get rid of the mould rather than spend a lot of money trying to find out more about it." (by sampling and identifying the species of mould- our comment) Dr. Joe Lstiburek, P. Eng., Phd..; Building Scientist and principle at Building Science Corporation (Website: www.buildingscience.com)

Why Air Sampling Results Are Undependable
By Jim H. White, Former senior researcher at CMHC

"The problem with most air sample methodologies is that they take a "snapshot" of a highly variable measurement. Several studies have shown that the number of viable spores in a building, at a given location, varies by orders of magnitude over a few days to weeks. This is due to changes in weather (and the way air moves through the building), changes in colony condition (moisture and food availability, energy available for sporulation, and so on), etc. Sampling outcomes are also highly dependent on the specific location of the sampling, especially if the mould is growing."

[Douglas Wall]

I say again

I think this is great, Good work NACHI.

Naples mold inspections,Naples home inspections, Marco Island mold testing, Bonita Springs Mold Inspections should be performed by professionals "certified" and state licensed to do so. http://radonmoldhelp.com/id69.html

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by douglas

I say again


Quote:
I think this is great, Good work NACHI.

I forgot about your first line:


"I think this is great, should allow for some cheap continuing education credits."

[Nick Gromicko]

It's not just "cheap" Brian... it's free. Inspector education is approved and free here: www.nachi.org/education.htm

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Our Super Low Price Special!

Certified Home Inspections starting as low as $245

Why is the best in the area area having to advertise such "Super Low Prices"?

"Mold Air Sampling

The best way to determine if considered toxic mold is present. Taken to the IESO testing standard. Samples analyzed by an Industrial Hygienist, who is the top mold expert in the state."

What species have the experts considered to be "toxic" and at what levels of "contamination" are they "toxic"? Scare tactics such as these are dismaying to many experts................

•• John Bower, owner, The Healthy House Institute, Bloomington, Ind.:
"The worst thing that has happened to the indoor air quality marketplace in the last year or so is mould. This is because much of the media coverage is designed to sensationalize the topic and frighten the public - so much so, that the word 'mould' always seems to be preceded by the adjective 'toxic'. Thus, homeowners and building managers are scared to death of any minor infestation that might possibly be toxic mould, and they often ignore other health issues, such as combustion byproducts, VOC’s, second-hand tobacco smoke and poor ventilation."

•• Dr. Joseph Lstiburek, president, Building Science Corp., Westford, Mass.: "The biggest news is the insurance people getting out of covering mould claims. This is great news because the easy money is gone. Now we are dealing with real money——yours and mine; insurance money was always viewed as someone else's. Now, attorneys are wary of taking mould cases on contingency. They actually have to work for their money" (and you still have to pay them whether you win or lose- our comment)

•• Larry D. Robertson, president and CEO, Mycotech Biological Inc, Jewett, Texas: "As industry leaders, our failure to have in place an appropriate outlet for public knowledge and education has resulted in gross misrepresentations and misunderstandings of basic Indoor Air Quality fundamentals."

Other quotes:

"If you see it or smell it, you do not have to test for it. It is more important to get rid of the mould rather than spend a lot of money trying to find out more about it." (by sampling and identifying the species of mould- our comment) Dr. Joe Lstiburek, P. Eng., Phd..; Building Scientist and principle at Building Science Corporation (Website: www.buildingscience.com)

Why Air Sampling Results Are Undependable
By Jim H. White, Former senior researcher at CMHC

"The problem with most air sample methodologies is that they take a "snapshot" of a highly variable measurement. Several studies have shown that the number of viable spores in a building, at a given location, varies by orders of magnitude over a few days to weeks. This is due to changes in weather (and the way air moves through the building), changes in colony condition (moisture and food availability, energy available for sporulation, and so on), etc. Sampling outcomes are also highly dependent on the specific location of the sampling, especially if the mould is growing."

You need to read a little farther, Brian. That is the market rate inspection that Steve performs, not me.

You will notice most of the sources you quoted are not even recognized by the mold industry.
Also it is true the outside spore count will change some after a rain, but so will radon levels inside the home be affected by rain. For some reason critics fail to mention that part.
You will need to go back and read most of my posts about mold on this message board, than you might understand your ignorance.

[James L. Keilson]

This is good stuff Nick, big thumbs up to NACHI once again.

Jim

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jbraun

You need to read a little farther, Brian. That is the market rate inspection that Steve performs, not me.

AHA!! The old "bait and switch"........lead them on with your CV and then......oh that's for Steve.........it's still a poor rate for a home inspection!!!

You will notice most of the sources you quoted are not even recognized by the mold industry.

What do you mean recognized by the mould industry......Some of these folks have more experience in IAQ than most here can ever dream of, have written books and standards for IAQ.....Joe Lstiburek sat on ASHRAE's Standard 62 committee.....you may have a step up on some here.....but don't ever try to match skills with some of these folks!!


Also it is true the outside spore count will change some after a rain, (only after a rain???.....LOL) but so will radon levels inside the home be affected by rain. For some reason critics fail to mention that part.

You will need to go back and read most of my posts about mold on this message board, than you might understand your ignorance.

By the way, why are you selling/advertising real estate on your website......that would be a conflict of interest IMHO!!! ONLY IN AMERICA!!

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I give a free listing on my highly ranked website with each MIC inspection. And yes, MIC inspections are proven to sell homes, so I am guilty.

I cannot find any studies these IAQ officials did in mold. Please post links to any mold studies they have done.

If an outside samples are taken correctly, the outside air count will not very by much from week to week. I have seen air samples taken on the same day, two hundred miles away, and the counts look basically the same. Rain is the only thing i have found that will make the samples very.

I know the market rate is low that is why you hear so many Missouri and Kansas home inspectors are struggling.