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Old 3/2/08, 9:34 PM
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ASHI Member Paul Luczyk, A Team Home Inspection, Mukilteo, Wash., says “They got a great shot of the ASHI logo on my shirt,” when he appeared on a four-minute news report broadcast by the local CBS station (KIRO 7) in Seattle. The text version of the report, “Some Home Inspectors Unqualified, Inexperienced” by Wayne Havrelly, KIRO 7 consumer investigator, is available at here. Luczkk is identified as the president of the Seattle ASHI chapter, and ASHI is described as, “a national organization that would also like to see quality home inspection legislation in our state.”



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Busshy they are busy all over the country, millions of people read about ASHI in several magazines and papers every day, only difference is, ASHI leadership, is not amassed that the info got out, and doesn't brag , [on a BB in an attempt to get more members] about it every time the info is released.

Guess another reason would be, ASHI would have hire 2 or 3 full time employees, to just keep track of/ verify all the free PR ASHI members get every day of the month,
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Old 3/2/08, 9:52 PM
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Perhaps ASHI could provide better assistance to the profession instead of preparing news reports highlighting the "bad inspector" just to create a licensing board for their directors to sit on.

Much of the negative press regarding home inspectors is originated by ASHI as they fabricate the need for their licensing bills.

Like ASHI itself, it's all bunk.



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Old 3/2/08, 10:40 PM
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That was an OLD article. Dated from November 2006. And yes, it does look like the legislation is going to pass with very very little opposition.

SB 6606 has passed the Senate, sent on to the House where the Commerce & Labor Committe has passed and sent on to Appropriations Committee where it most likely will fly through to a yes vote by the House.

Oh well.




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Gosh busshy, I recieved some interesting info on Wash lic,
Are you aware of this disturbing info.

The licensing law in Washington State was put together by a coalition that included iNACHI representatives and that last Tuesday evening it was Troy Walton, the new iNACHI legislative liaison to the WHILAG, Washington Home Inspectors Legislative Advisory Group, that went before the state Labor and Commerce committee and fully endorsed the SB 6606, the proposed law presently in the house, as well as the work of the WHILAG.

By the way, WHILAG, ASHI, NAHI, AII,and iNACHI will have nothing to do with the selection process for the state board. IF the bill passes and is signed into law... that will all be done by the Director of the Department of Licensing. Also, the bill restricts the number of representatives from any single home inspection organization to only one each, so PussFarts assertion that the board will be dominated by ASHI folks who pushed for the law just shows that he's got his head tucked up his a--
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Old 3/2/08, 11:56 PM
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So who the heck annointed Troy Walton as the NACHI representative? I sure didn't see any call from NACHI to fill the position? It is just another person that favors legislation that the group allowed to join.

WHILAG was and is heavily weighted towards ASHI. They hid memberships as "independant" or just did not list them as ASHI members even though they are.

What really gets me is the WIN Home Inspection franchise that favors legislation (ASHI members) and states they have this wonderful training program for their franchisees and they are all highly qualified.....

YET.....the failed and well publicized on TV and newspapers home inspection, that cost the owners tens of thousands of dollars and put this legislation on the front burner with Senator Spanel, was performed by a WIN inspector. Must be some good training.....




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So who the heck annointed Troy Walton as the NACHI representative? I sure didn't see any call from NACHI to fill the position? It is just another person that favors legislation that the group allowed to join.
I dunno
Just another example that busshy, and his anti licensing pals are full of it again, when they claim it's just ashi behind state licensing, or the standard BS line that ashi members are out to put nacho members out of business..
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So who the heck annointed Troy Walton as the NACHI representative? I sure didn't see any call from NACHI to fill the position? It is just another person that favors legislation that the group allowed to join.

WHILAG was and is heavily weighted towards ASHI. They hid memberships as "independant" or just did not list them as ASHI members even though they are.

What really gets me is the WIN Home Inspection franchise that favors legislation (ASHI members) and states they have this wonderful training program for their franchisees and they are all highly qualified.....

YET.....the failed and well publicized on TV and newspapers home inspection, that cost the owners tens of thousands of dollars and put this legislation on the front burner with Senator Spanel, was performed by a WIN inspector. Must be some good training.....
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Old 3/3/08, 12:35 AM
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What a coincidence as I just commented on one of Mr Luczyks posts.
Seems he feels people only want a ASHI Inspector.
Well you guys know I never let the BS go unanswered.http://activerain.com/blogsview/3994...ecommending-an
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So who the heck annointed Troy Walton as the NACHI representative? I sure didn't see any call from NACHI to fill the position? It is just another person that favors legislation that the group allowed to join.

WHILAG was and is heavily weighted towards ASHI. They hid memberships as "independant" or just did not list them as ASHI members even though they are.

What really gets me is the WIN Home Inspection franchise that favors legislation (ASHI members) and states they have this wonderful training program for their franchisees and they are all highly qualified.....

YET.....the failed and well publicized on TV and newspapers home inspection, that cost the owners tens of thousands of dollars and put this legislation on the front burner with Senator Spanel, was performed by a WIN inspector. Must be some good training.....

This one is getting pretty good
All the time I've been involved with ASHI, it was ASHI members that stood up for what they believed, never have I heard that ASHI, leadership that was elected by the members go out and say here's what to do, after reading this, all I can say thank goodness I belong to and org where the members can speck for themselves, and vote accordingly.
Guess when you belong to a dictator run org, if your appointed it's your obligiation to step up when told to do so by the dictator


The rule when the group was founded was to allow representation from every one of the major home inspection associations. The call went out to each of the NACHI chapters to each send a couple of reps. Initially, they showed up with six people, but over time they dwindled off as they apparently lost interest in participating in a long drawn out discussion, debating, voting process where everyone was given
equal weight regardless of whether they were with an association or were an independent. By the 2nd or 3rd meeting, Jerry D. was claiming to be the official NACHI state representative designated by ole nickey When Jerry D. quit several months ago, nobody else bothered fill the position and it sat vacant. Finally, good ole Troy stepped up and ole Nickey "annointed" him. However, the group that's left does reserve the right to refuse to accept anyone, annointed or not, whom they feels can't be objective and will favor one group over the welfare of all home inspectors in the state. Over the past couple of years, they've rejected nearly half a dozen inspectors from ASHIwho were nominated to replace those who were leaving. They've only rejected one iNACHI member - Wendy - because at the time she was nominated by a leaving NACHI person, she hadn't even done a single home inspection - ever.

Hmmm, wonder how many of your $sss from nacho members dues went to Wash state licensing

HELLO ....And ASHI is out to control the States licensing ???
Sure doesn't look like ASHI spent any of their members $s there.

Bussy... Better get all your constopo members together, and get this corrected, before the corruption gets out of hand on this one.

Is MO next??? Never know, looking like it's time for ole nickey to go before its toooooo late
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The original legislation had ASHI in it. I sent every legislator (by U.S. mail) in Washington an ACTUAL ASHI application showing each legislator that ASHI has no entrance requirements whatsoever and so meets the text book definition of a diploma mill.

ASHI was removed from the Bill.



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The original legislation had ASHI in it. I sent every legislator (by U.S. mail) in Washington an ACTUAL ASHI application showing each legislator that ASHI has no entrance requirements whatsoever and so meets the text book definition of a diploma mill.

ASHI was removed from the Bill.
And after they took your quiz, and got their certification certificate, is that when they decided that WA state needs State licensing.
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Old 3/3/08, 8:30 PM
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Dan on the serious side I would like to keep an open mind.
Where is a link for the ASHI entrance exam so I can find out if I qualify to join up?
I would like to compare and see whom is tougher to join.
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Dan on the serious side I would like to keep an open mind.
Where is a link for the ASHI entrance exam so I can find out if I qualify to join up?
I would like to compare and see whom is tougher to join.

Like many other professional organizations ,Same as ICC , No test needed to join..
If you want to marketed to the public as an ASHI Certified Home Inspector to the public by ASHI
you need to pass the NHIE, provide proof of completing 250 inspections, and summit 5 inspection reports for review.


I do believe there are sample tests that you can take to test your HI knowledge, on the ASHI site..
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Washington legislators dumped ASHI because of ASHI's entrance quiz. ASHI only has one online entrance quiz. I was able to obtain the actual questions on their entrance quiz from this site: http://www.homeinspector.org/join/ap...n/default.aspx

The questions consist of fill in the blank stuff like "what's your name?", "what is the expiration date on your credit card number", etc...

It has a 99.9% pass rate (one dog named Rover didn't pass because he didn't have a credit card).

I used the same tactic in Georgia last month. I personally mailed every legislator a copy of ASHI's little patty-cake quiz. Not a single legislator opposed our request to remove ASHI from the legislation.

Bye bye ASHI from Washington and Georgia.

I also send their "shazam" application to thousands of REALTORs asking them to check ASHI.org before recommending any inspector to make sure the inspector didn't get into the business by way of diploma mill.

ASHI members think they are slow because of the bad real estate market and so are waiting for the market to bounce back. Little do they know... their own online "shazam" quiz is killing them. Killing them legislatively, killing them with REALTORs, killing them with consumers (all with a little help from me of course ). Want to wreck your inspection business? Display the ASHI logo... the inspection industry's symbol of illegitimacy. My goal is to make sure everyone checks for that logo BEFORE recommending or hiring an inspector... and I'm succeeding. http://www.homeinspector.org/join/ap...n/default.aspx makes it easy.

Pass it on.

No-entrance-requirement diploma mills must go the way of preferred vendor, purchased-praise schemes... and die.

The legislators in Washington and Georgia did right by dumping ASHI.



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