ASHI Leads Legislation Drive In Michigan

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Many little state associations have popped up in the last 2-3 years and enjoy some life especially during times of pending legislation, however I see them having a tough go of it in the long haul. NACHI continues to come up with more and more stuff that only an association that has reached a certain critical mass is able to do. And the stuff coming down the pike (take http://www.nachi.org/forum/f13/coming-soon-monday-free-online-polybutylene-course-w-streaming-video-16672/ for instance) is so fantastic that it will be hard to capture the attention of the average local inspector by less robust local groups.

These "little associations" are not there to serve their members. They are there to serve the agenda of the handful who form them. Thus, their short lives...

[Nick Gromicko]

Agreed. An exception to the little groups might be scumbag NAHI, a do-nothing association that had a pretty long run.

But when you peel away the unfair advantage they had of permitting contractors to join them and pose as home inspectors just to drum up repair work... and the work their members procure unethically by bribing agents to recommend them through preferred vendor schemes, they really are walking death.

It is just tough to compete with the going pace www.nachi.org/whats_new.htm these days on Planet NACHI.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

It is just tough to compete with the going pace www.nachi.org/whats_new.htm these days on Planet NACHI.

Yep.

Very few even try to compete, any more.

There is an alternative to "competition" that a few are trying to use, these days, to gain their advantage.

They call it "legislation".

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by jbushart

bamboozled

It is absolutely pathetic how this "horror story" which blatanly fails to implicate the home inspector of negligence is being used as a catylist for HI licensing reform. The seller and realtor were clearly the guilty parties and therefore should be the ones targeted. And this pathetic, blantanly bias article uses emotional pitches, hearsay and personal opinions as an alternative to legitimate assertions.

It sounds like the "victim turned activist" is nothing more than a jackass who real interest is in being a so-called "hero of the people". Heck, the article even mentions that he has always had in interest in activism! His true colors are shown by him suing the home inspector, who if insured was a potentially easy litigation target in the transaction, instead of the realtor and seller, who likely would be difficult and expensive to win a judgment against. His lawsuit being thrown out likely shows he lacked evidence that could speculate that the home inspector was in violation of SOP. But I guess none of this matters to those with an agenda ...

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I (along with NACHI TV) am going to hold Frank Accavitti to his promise that ASHI's Kindergarten NHIE will not be used.

The NHIE still makes the NACHI test seem like a joke. Why don't you implement Gerry's test?

Face it Nick your entrace exam is a joke and does not come close to the NHIE. However , I will give you the fact that this is the only Org. that requires an entrance test.



Pull up the sack and let Gerrys CMI test be the entrance test into NACHI you may not get as many passers, but it will due the Org. good. He has a very well written and well thought out test that 70% of the current home inspectors probably would not pass.. If you would implement this test as a gateway it would solidify NACHI's place as top of the line....


JMO



Here is my score and I am not to proud of it.

Your Online Score:

• You answered 131 questions correctly for a total of 507 points.
  Please note that some questions can have multiple correct answers, some worth only partial credit.
• The total possible points you could have received was 583.

Congratulations! You passed the the exam, with a final score of 87
Here are a few statistics about your exam session. Green bars are good, yellow bars are okay, and red bars are bad.

How you fared in each category

Electrical:

77%

Environmental:

100%

Ethics:

100%

Exteriors:

100%

Fireplaces, Stoves and Chimneys:

59%

General:

80%

Heating and Cooling:

90%

Interiors:

90%

Manufactured Housing:

70%

Plumbing:

100%

Roofs and Attics:

95%

Safety:

100%

Standards of Practice:

87%

Structural:

81%

Ventilation and Insulation:

60%

WDI & WDO basics:

100%


Now , if you could get the membership to pass a test as hard and thougrogh as this one that Gerry has you could take all of the slim compatition down to nothinhg.

I have taken the NACHI test at least 6 times it is a joke! I have taken the NHIE test, it is not easy, at least 10 times harder than the NACHI entrance exam.
I have taken Gerrys tests "CMI" or whatever and I can say without a doubt that it is the most inclusive and by far the most difficult HI exam I have ever taken.

If you as an Org. could make passing this test maditory after one year of membership... NACHI would instantly rule the HI world.


By the way I need some help with fire places....

To be honest I posted my lowest score on this test hoping to prove a point.


Sorry Gerry, but you know me.......

[Nick Gromicko]

Todd, I'm lost... which exam or quiz are you talking about: www.nachi.org/rigorous2006.htm

[Nick Gromicko]

Todd, by your own admission (using your own stats that you offered on this message board) you passed the NHIE by a greater margin than you ever passed our www.nachi.org/aboutexam.htm (which has a passing cut-off score of 80). This despite our exam being open book!

You are now NACHI's official poster boy our "NHIE is way too easy" committee.

THANKS A BUNCH!!!

[kmiller1]

I haven't yet found the bill, but I did find two articles in the Port Huron Times Herald. I am going to try to contact the author of the articles to see if he has a copy, and if that doesn't work, I am going to try to contact Rep Accavitti. The two articles are as follows:
www.thetimesherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070504/NEWS01/705040309
www.thetimesherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070504/NEWS01/70504003

[kmiller1]

I just got off the phone with Frank Acavitti's office. The bill is still being drafted, and has not been presented to the House. The woman at his office had no time line for when the bill will be complete.
The author of the articles also did not have any real idea what was going to be in the bill. The reason he contacted Michigan Association of Home Inspectors is that Acavitti said he was working with Randy Aldering on it.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by kmiller1

I just got off the phone with Frank Acavitti's office. The bill is still being drafted, and has not been presented to the House. The woman at his office had no time line for when the bill will be complete.
The author of the articles also did not have any real idea what was going to be in the bill. The reason he contacted Michigan Association of Home Inspectors is that Acavitti said he was working with Randy Aldering on it.

It's part of the ASHI/ITA model. Right now, as they assist the author with the bill that will mandate ITA courses taught by ASHI instructors, they are using the media to assist them in convincing the public (and their legislators) that there is a need for it.

From the article that was published, the only need I see is for a stronger disclosure law.

[kmiller1]

Originally Posted by jbushart

From the article that was published, the only need I see is for a stronger disclosure law.

Agreed

[bemelander]

Maybe more NACHI members should join MichAHI so that their views could be heard. I know there are MichAHI members from most of the organizations and their input has been heard.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by bemelander

Maybe more NACHI members should join MichAHI so that their views could be heard. I know there are MichAHI members from most of the organizations and their input has been heard.

Absolutely not.

This gives credibility to the ASHI controlled association. Your voice is meaningless in the ASHI/ITA agenda.

Your interests are best preserved by discrediting this make=believe coalition and keep it from being recognized. Let the media know that the ASHI and ITA interests being expressed by this small group is NOT indicative of the majority of home inspectors in your state.

You will be glad you did.

[kmiller1]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Your interests are best preserved by discrediting this make=believe coalition and keep it from being recognized. Let the media know that the ASHI and ITA interests being expressed by this small group is NOT indicative of the majority of home inspectors in your state.

You will be glad you did.

Jim, do you have anything in writing from ASHI or ITA that can be forwarded on to the Rep?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by kmiller1

Jim, do you have anything in writing from ASHI or ITA that can be forwarded on to the Rep?

Better than that. I will send newspaper articles to the Rep that mirror the one that he thinks he wrote all on his own. When he sees how he has already been taken in, himself, the lights should come on. Send me his email address.