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[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Licensing and all the evils associated with it tend to bring out the worst in both people and associations, wonder what we'll disagree about once all 52 states adopt home inspection licensing?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Licensing and all the evils associated with it tend to bring out the worst in both people and associations, wonder what we'll disagree about once all 52 states adopt home inspection licensing?

That there are "52 states", probably.

[ekartal6]

Or my site is better than your site...

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

Licensing and all the evils associated with it tend to bring out the worst in both people and associations, wonder what we'll disagree about once all 52 states adopt home inspection licensing?

Joe, you have hit it on the head!

I have been scouring the web and different States agendas for a little while now and I can see a few States were the Realtors are trying to take control of our proffession and to be honest I do not see them having much problem in doing so.

HI licensing is not the real problem, the real problem is who is in control of said licensing. If it is to be Realtors and there cohorts we are gona have a very real problem.

If it is the State with a board comprised of HI's and lawmakers (no Realtors) than we may have the upper hand .

My point is, and I think I have said this before, that the big Org's and all HI's need to get together and stop this crap, and we can, if we all pull together and stop acting like a bunch of pre madonas ie. MY Org's better than your Org. and work together to prevent this insanity.

I do see a problem though, I have noticed ASHI is pulling a full out campaing that is dirrectly related to Realtors, and it pisses me off that they would stoop to such a level!! How in the heck are we ever going to free ourselves from these folks when we have one of the most powerfull HI Org's sidding with them?

I feel ashamed for all Home inspectors as this is just nut's!

I will post this small so no one hears.

If NACHI and ASHI got together on these things within1-2 years we would not have to deal with the $49 dollar inspector nor would we have need for Realtor refurals.

We have the means to control this market and rightfully so, so why don't we do it?

Well??

OOps, I missed one very inportant point.

WE could all get paid for what we are really worth!

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jwilliams4

Good heavens-----Todd! What has happened to you !?!?!
Totally in shock!!

Well, Jae he typed something I also believe. What can I say. I am slow, but I most always say exactly what I am thinking. Which is apperently a fault of mine that I have no control over.

[rstrahan]

Originally Posted by tallen

HI licensing is not the real problem, the real problem is who is in control of said licensing. If it is to be Realtors and there cohorts we are gona have a very real problem.

Dang your posts are good.

Here it is in a nutshell. There are about 35,000 inspectors in the US, loosely affiliated with EIGHTEEN organizations, and those are generally stabbing each other in the back.

The National Association of Realtors has 1,357,000 dues-paying members with state chapters in lock step.

Legislatively, we are meat on the table. EVERYWHERE.

Russell (gnawing on my leash in Texas)

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by rstrahan

Dang your posts are good.

Here it is in a nutshell. There are about 35,000 inspectors in the US, spread among EIGHTEEN organizations.

The National Association of Realtors has 1,357,000 dues-paying members with state chapters in lock step.

Legislatively, we are meat on the table. EVERYWHERE.

Russell (gnawing on my leash in Texas)

Thank you.

I must say you are right the farking Realtors take us for granted and use us as pawns in a lot of cases. I have my own workload down to about 8 Realtors that I like and really try there best for the client. The only othr HI's I take nowdays are refurrals from those agents or past clients.


WE can stop this insane grip that Realtors have over us. I say even the folks that do not market to them are in the most part still relieant upon them for there biz, A web site will only do so much.

If we, as a proffession, would join forces to eradicate this crap I would bet that most HI's could raise there prices by 50% and not have to argue about it. Then the best of the best will shine through.

New story , slightly related.

I was at a termite inspection 2 days ago (20 min.) and the client told me that he paid $210 for his HI. HMMM, It was 2400 sq and a 2 story with a F'ing pool! I asked him if he was happy with his HI and he told me I don't know it has been 2 days and I have not received the report. I took the time to point out some obvious problems.

He asked me what I would have charged and I told him $429.00 he actually gasped at my price.

The very next day this same person called my office to set up a HI. It was a 5600 sq home (his own house) for a listing inspection. I had to call my friend for the elevator. lol. I found 53 problems of those 6 were in need of serious help. Serious to me is Safety problems and they had a hoot full.

The guy was shocked as he had had regular maintanence, ect.

It is kind of a stupid story , but my point is that you have no idea what you might run into and it is best to be prepared ie. Elevator techs, Indoorpool specialist, Master Sparkeys. Etc.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by tallen

I must say you are right the farking Realtors take us for granted and use us as pawns in a lot of cases.

Through it's branding program catered toward winning the referral market from real estate salesmen, our friends at ASHI have adapted to become the pilot fish that swim around the mouth of the shark ---dependent...not independent. They promote ASHI inspectors so often because they know that ASHI inspector is "realtor friendly" and they can trust his cooperation in working toward closing the sale.

Real estate salespeople think they have inspectors on the short leash, since so many newbies (and a few old timers) live or die by their referrals. Here in Missouri, the MAR is still stinging and trying to figure out what to do with me --- a very vocal and well published critic who could give a s h i t about referrals from them.

It's time for those of us who are free from the chains to stand up against their efforts to govern us and start repealing some of these laws. The conflict of interest that many of them create is very easy to prove to the public and the response of the public is very strongly in favor of the home inspector's desire to remain independent from real estate salepeople's direct control.

It is unreasonable to expect or to even ask an inspector who needs his referrals to stay alive to participate in the fight...but those of us who can, should.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Through it's branding program catered toward winning the referral market from real estate salesmen, our friends at ASHI have adapted to become the pilot fish that swim around the mouth of the shark ---dependent...not independent. They promote ASHI inspectors so often because they know that ASHI inspector is "realtor friendly" and they can trust his cooperation in working toward closing the sale.

Real estate salespeople think they have inspectors on the short leash, since so many newbies (and a few old timers) live or die by their referrals. Here in Missouri, the MAR is still stinging and trying to figure out what to do with me --- a very vocal and well published critic who could give a s h i t about referrals from them.

It's time for those of us who are free from the chains to stand up against their efforts to govern us and start repealing some of these laws. The conflict of interest that many of them create is very easy to prove to the public and the response of the public is very strongly in favor of the home inspector's desire to remain independent from real estate salepeople's direct control.

It is unreasonable to expect or to even ask an inspector who needs his referrals to stay alive to participate in the fight...but those of us who can, should.

It is unreasonable to expect or to even ask an inspector who needs his referrals to stay alive to participate in the fight...but those of us who can, should.

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I disagree. Once the Realtor is out of the equation all will be free to market to the consumer and not the Realtor for there biz. It is imparitive that all HI's have a web site, as a very large portion of folks looking for HI's look to the web for the info they need.
With a nice web site and good direct marketing to your local home buyers, that effectively puts the Realtors out of the loop.

Nite James , ran out of booze. LOL

[Christopher Currins]

Originally Posted by tallen

Joe, you have hit it on the head!

I have been scouring the web and different States agendas for a little while now and I can see a few States were the Realtors are trying to take control of our proffession and to be honest I do not see them having much problem in doing so.

HI licensing is not the real problem, the real problem is who is in control of said licensing. If it is to be Realtors and there cohorts we are gona have a very real problem.

If it is the State with a board comprised of HI's and lawmakers (no Realtors) than we may have the upper hand .

My point is, and I think I have said this before, that the big Org's and all HI's need to get together and stop this crap, and we can, if we all pull together and stop acting like a bunch of pre madonas ie. MY Org's better than your Org. and work together to prevent this insanity.

I do see a problem though, I have noticed ASHI is pulling a full out campaing that is dirrectly related to Realtors, and it pisses me off that they would stoop to such a level!! How in the heck are we ever going to free ourselves from these folks when we have one of the most powerfull HI Org's sidding with them?

I feel ashamed for all Home inspectors as this is just nut's!

I will post this small so no one hears.

If NACHI and ASHI got together on these things within1-2 years we would not have to deal with the $49 dollar inspector nor would we have need for Realtor refurals.

We have the means to control this market and rightfully so, so why don't we do it?

Well??

OOps, I missed one very inportant point.

WE could all get paid for what we are really worth!

I think this is why in Illinois it could be a good thing. There are 7 members on the board...5 must be activly engaged and currently licensed as home inspectors....1 is a real estate licensed broker...and 1 is a member that interest represents the general public. This has put a change in real estate agents recommending "there" inspector. Evev though I'm new in the inspection business..I have been involved in buying and sellind houses for more than 25 years. There are different types of agents , just like there are different types of people.

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[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

That there are "52 states", probably.

Yeah 52, I had Nostradamus-like brainfart... envisioning a time post Puerto Rico and the annexation of Mexico, with Florida of course being the last hold out. Ole'

[jcundiff]

Why wouldn't they monitor this board?? Half the time its packed with useful, well reasoned discussion among professionals. The other half they can be entertained by a group of adults bickering over meaningless personal opinions and agendas clogging these threads with grade-school styled dribble.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jcundiff

Why wouldn't they monitor this board?? Half the time its packed with useful, well reasoned discussion among professionals. The other half they can be entertained by a group of adults bickering over meaningless personal opinions and agendas clogging these threads with grade-school styled dribble.

...and under which of these two categories would you place this post, sir?

[jcundiff]

My point exactly.