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Old 11/24/09, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: ASHI's admits that money is the reason ASHI has no entrance requirements.

InterNACHI already requires passing of the NHIE (or whatever each state mandates) in states where the duly elected legislators of that state require it. See InterNACHI's Code of Ethics 1.10. InterNACHI's many requirements are above and beyond (on top of) whatever your individual city, state, or Canadian province requires.

We're taking bets at the office as to when ASHI will adopt it's very first entrance requirement. Our poll is divided it up into blocks of decades. I guessed between years 2070-2079. However, I don't suspect I'll live long enough to collect my winnings.



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Old 11/24/09, 1:01 AM
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Nick, I'm no longer on any ASHI committee or do I have anything to do ASHI other than just being a member for about the past two years. I'm not an ASHI "Big Wig" as you claim. I have not admitted to anything like you claim.

I have voiced my opinion. Yes, I would like to see ASHI, INACHI, NAHI, CREAI and every other home inspector organization require the NHIE before a person could join. It would be the best thing for our profession.

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Old 11/24/09, 1:21 AM
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Why can't the major national associations come together and create a test that is non-association owned.

Come on, everyone knows that the NHIE is owned by ASHI (and forget about the legal niceties of a separate corportation.)

And many ASHI guys, back when I was first licensed, boasted about having all the answer keys.

The Illinois state test is the NHIE, with some additional questions with regards to the state law.

It is administered by a separate, psychometric, professional and independent testing company.

And, when licensing cane into Illinois, all the 250+ ASHI "fuill members" still had to take the test in order to be state licensed.

And only 40% of them passed.

Kinda telling, don't you think?



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Old 11/24/09, 1:54 AM
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I'm all for ASHI upping their entrance requirements. I have suggested many times over the years that ASHI should require the NHIE before a person can sign up. Unfortunately the bean counters say that would cut the number of new folks who join by half.
Scott's quote speaks for itself. Nick has simply pointed out the obvious.

ASHI claims to be so superior because of all their requirements, but this simply is not the case.



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Old 11/24/09, 2:04 AM
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Good idea Will, but we'd have to dumb it down for ASHI members. Like you said:
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only 40% of them passed.
... even when they had the answers to the NHIE. And, like ASHI's Scott Patterson revealed, even though a full 50% of their membership can be attributed to ASHI having no entrance requirements, ASHI continues to shrink in all areas. Let them die.



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Old 11/24/09, 6:26 PM
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Nick, I'm no longer on any ASHI committee or do I have anything to do ASHI other than just being a member for about the past two years. I'm not an ASHI "Big Wig" as you claim. I have not admitted to anything like you claim.

I have voiced my opinion. Yes, I would like to see ASHI, INACHI, NAHI, CREAI and every other home inspector organization require the NHIE before a person could join. It would be the best thing for our profession.
Scott, you will always be "big" to me.



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Old 11/24/09, 6:30 PM
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And many ASHI guys, back when I was first licensed, boasted about having all the answer keys.
Hearsay at best. vicious rumor at worst.



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Old 11/26/09, 1:05 AM
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Default Re: ASHI's admits that money is the reason ASHI has no entrance requirements.

I've been told by several inspectors that have taken both the NHIE and Texas Test OR the NHIE and NAHI CRI Exam, that both the Texas & NAHI CRI Exam were more to the point of what we as HI's do.

Why all the fuss about the NHIE. Its no Trade Secret - Everybody knows from which it came, who funded it, owned it, controlled it, etc. AND the same for the EBPHI. It all started when HUD told ASHI that they could NOT be the voice of the industry if they didn't have 10,000 Inspectors.
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