Arizona ASHI President Proves Licensing Solves Nothing

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Not fond of ASHI disparaging home inspectors....members or not.

Aggreed James.

[Brian E. Kelly]

US Inspect and All Pro are Franchises and did not do as well as Dylan the Independent. "Franchises solve nothing"

As for the so called exposed electrical wire above the microwave, it was the appliance cord which is perfectly acceptable.

Knucklehead hidden camera inspector.

[James H. Bushart]

This takes me back to another thread....but there has to be a better way of marketing than this. For me to show that "everybody but me" is a danger to the consumer damages the entire industry.

No one should be proud of what they did in setting up those inspectors. They hurt all of us.

In fact, the President of the ASHI Chapter who assisted the media (my bet is that he approached them, not vice versa) in setting up other home inspectors directly violated Article 3 of the ASHI code of ethics which states "Inspectors shall avoid activities that may harm the public, discredit themselves, or reduce public confidence in the profession."

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by jbushart

This takes me back to another thread....but there has to be a better way of marketing than this. For me to show that "everybody but me" is a danger to the consumer damages the entire industry.

No one should be proud of what they did in setting up those inspectors. They hurt all of us.

In fact, the President of the ASHI Chapter who assisted the media (my bet is that he approached them, not vice versa) in setting up other home inspectors directly violated Article 3 of the ASHI code of ethics which states "Inspectors shall avoid activities that may harm the public, discredit themselves, or reduce public confidence in the profession."

Hmmm...I think you're exactly Correct Jim...!!!!

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by kluce

Around here, a high loop for a dishwasher is not enforced by city inspectors and many manufacturers only recommend having them installed. Is it required in the City of Chandler?

Depends if there is an air gap at the top of the sink, and whether or not the NEW dishwasher has an back-flow preventer installed, I have inspected numerous New Homes in Chandler (back in the old days when they were building homes)---AHJ did not require a High Loop, it was installed according to the manufacturers installation instructions, without a High Loop.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by dduffy

Depends if there is an air gap at the top of the sink, and whether or not the NEW dishwasher has an back-flow preventer installed, I have inspected numerous New Homes in Chandler (back in the old days when they were building homes)---AHJ did not require a High Loop, it was installed according to the manufacturers installation instructions, without a High Loop.

High loop and dishwasher backflow are two entirely different things Dale.

If there is no airgap than a hi loop is required ot keep the cooties out of the dishwasher.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbushart

This takes me back to another thread....but there has to be a better way of marketing than this. For me to show that "everybody but me" is a danger to the consumer damages the entire industry.

No one should be proud of what they did in setting up those inspectors. They hurt all of us.

In fact, the President of the ASHI Chapter who assisted the media (my bet is that he approached them, not vice versa) in setting up other home inspectors directly violated Article 3 of the ASHI code of ethics which states "Inspectors shall avoid activities that may harm the public, discredit themselves, or reduce public confidence in the profession."

How do you file a complaint against an A$HI inspector who does not belong to A$HI? This supposed A$HI president is a scumbag to the third degree. If I was an Arizona inspector I would be on this station's butt about getting a retraction about all the inaccuracies especially the part where this apparent A$HI President is uncertified.

[David P. OKeefe]

I have a few questions. Did any of these inspectors find any defects that the A$HI expert did not? And were any of these inspectors A$HI members?

[Dale Duffy]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

High loop and dishwasher backflow are two entirely different things Dale.

If there is no airgap than a hi loop is required ot keep the cooties out of the dishwasher.

No Shift---

[Mark Nahrgang]

My question is, what did the other three inspectors catch that Brogan missed? I'm sure there were things there too. This story is pretty slanted toward making Brogan the big hero, and the other three guys the chumps. While Dylan did a great job, an is deserving of credit, the story still makes the other three look bad because it lists what they "missed".

[Gary L. Farnsworth, CMI]

Was the trap set by Arizona SOP's, or by someone's opinion?

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gfarnsworth

Was the trap set by Arizona SOP's, or by someone's opinion?

The Arizona ASHI Chapter sets up these stings every three to four years.

Last time, the interview had some idiot bragging how licensing has kept Arizona home inspection fees "among the lowest in the nation" as he sucked hickies all over the butt cheeks of the television producer. It's in the 2005 archives, somewhere. I copied it to the message board.

The ASHI chapter in mid-Missouri had done the same thing three years ago when they were pushing to support that year's licensing bill. We got to the television station in time to turn the story around, but they had already interviewed Mike Parson of Bolivar (congressman paid to push the bill by MAR), Sam Licklider (lobbyist for MAR) and some poor schmuck whose wife is a realtor and using him to do her home inspections as a representative of all the inspectors in Missouri, and why we need licensing.

[dbucknavich]

Thanks for the kudos guys.

When they first revealed to me that I was involved the producer said "I blew then away" and DID catch SEVERAL things that the "expert" missed....Several. But how would they look if they reported that and let the guy go on judging us. As far as the porch, I failed to mention the missing hangar nails, my bad. But in the same area I mentioned the beam they are attached to needs to be replaced or monitored for a short time. They used a 2x4 post instead of a beam for the patio there and it was visibly sagging. I put the report on my site as the sample if you want to check it out. Don't even get me started on the wire sheathing. Next time I will recommend installing a 1/4 inch of conduit. That "expert" had to give himself some credibility, and I like to think he had a challenge getting some with me involved.

What they didn't mention is how I was the only one to detect active moisture under a bathroom floor coming into the living room ceiling. Also note in the video when we all missed the "exposed" wire, I actually kept the cabinet open while one guy didn't open at all and one guy opened for a millisecond...just saying. I didn't like how they focused on the high loop and anti-siphon valves. Pretty common defect around here, and much more major things were going on there.

I was happy about the report getting recognized, and at the risk of sounding arrogant, not very surprised. Thats where I think I thrive.
Naturally the news has to get people to watch, so it was more negative than it should've been, in my opinion. The way the producer built me up over the phone, I thought she was going to start over and use me as the expert.

I understand some of the earlier posts questioning my inspection techniques. Not much I can do about that. I know the work I do, and I was happy about that job. But hey, as this site will tell you...we're all critics.

[dbucknavich]

Originally Posted by gfarnsworth

Was the trap set by Arizona SOP's, or by someone's opinion?

Az SOP, which is the ASHI sop, hence the president. I don't know how someone couldn't meet those. Not All Pro's day, hope the BTR didn't see that.

[Larry D. Kage]

Congrats, Dylan...