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[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jbowman

Also please define, Publish By-Laws.

NACHI has published by-laws.

Ok, I guess I have just never seen them before. Would you be kind enough to point me to them.


Thanks in advance

[Ted Allen]

I did not expect this to turn into a fiasco, but alas.....

The only reference I can find on the web for NACHI bylaws pertains to chapters and not the Org. itself.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by tallen

Ok, I guess I have just never seen them before. Would you be kind enough to point me to them.


Thanks in advance

You will probably never get to see them. They are NACHI By-laws (The organization). You would have to request to see them from the NACHI Board of Directors.

The board does meet every year and the board does have elections.

They are based on Robert's Rules, very basic. I don't believe they are available for public view, but they are on file with the IRS, etc.

No one but the Board of Directors has any type of voting rights on the By Laws (I believe).

So when you make blanket statements that NACHI does not have By-laws, etc., you are wrong.

The membership does not have any ties with the by laws of NACHI. Therefore no votes.

Hope i said that all correctly.

[John Bowman]

Published does not mean public. Published means written. NACHI does have written/published By-Laws.

[wforsyth]

No. Check out any other org. How absurd. Semantics won't help anyone in the real world.

You can argue semantics all you want and Todd still won't be able to apply.

Published, in this context, means available in a conspicuous place for ALL members to see.

[Ted Allen]

OK, thanks John.

1 more: I am sure I should know this one, but I don't. Who is on the board of directors?

[wforsyth]

...as well as holding elections, most likely for ALL positions.

People in this org are going to start squirming because they won't be able to play by their own rules anymore if they want a satisfied membership.

Those who hold dual membership get chewed out, but without it for Todd being a member of NACHI is actually a liability at this point. So either he be allowed to join another org without harassment, or this org plays by the rules.

I wouldn't want any less and this type of thing may become more common.

Hmmm...

[wforsyth]

John...

It never said that the membership has to vote on the BYLAWS.

It requires voting by the membership, probably on issues and offices.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

No. Check out any other org. How absurd. Semantics won't help anyone in the real world.

You can argue semantics all you want and Todd still won't be able to apply.

Published, in this context, means available in a conspicuous place for ALL members to see.

ALL of the members of the NACHI organization on the Board of Directors do see them. You must understand general membership does not give us the right to see the books, demand the by-laws, etc.

It's tough to understand, I know.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by tallen

OK, thanks John.

1 more: I am sure I should know this one, but I don't. Who is on the board of directors?

Last I knew it was Nick Gromicko and Blaine Wiley. They were just redone recently, so I am not sure anymore.

[Greg Bell]

John

You were hanging out with Nick last week Hey. You are starting to sound just like him.

Todd,

You don't belong to a legit org?

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

...as well as holding elections, most likely for ALL positions.

People in this org are going to start squirming because they won't be able to play by their own rules anymore if they want a satisfied membership.

Those who hold dual membership get chewed out, but without it for Todd being a member of NACHI is actually a liability at this point. So either he be allowed to join another org without harassment, or this org plays by the rules.

I wouldn't want any less and this type of thing may become more common.

Hmmm...

Wendy,

I have no intention of joining any other Org.

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

...as well as holding elections, most likely for ALL positions.

People in this org are going to start squirming because they won't be able to play by their own rules anymore if they want a satisfied membership.

Those who hold dual membership get chewed out, but without it for Todd being a member of NACHI is actually a liability at this point. So either he be allowed to join another org without harassment, or this org plays by the rules.

I wouldn't want any less and this type of thing may become more common.

Hmmm...

Your way off track Wendy. NACHI does comply with Arizona Law as written.

1. We do have By-Laws.
2. The Board of Directors does have elections.
3. We do have more than 50 paid members in Arizona.
4. One or more of those members lives in those specially outlined county requirements.

What else is there??

[John Bowman]

Originally Posted by gbell

John

You were hanging out with Nick last week Hey. You are starting to sound just like him.

Todd,

You don't belong to a legit org?

Yes, I was. But remember that NACHI is ran by the book in accordance with the strict standards outlined for 501 (c) (6) organizations.

Please don't confuse membership voting with Board of Director(s) voting. Two different animals.

Confusing as hell, isn't it.

[Brian E. Kelly]

John this is what published means

Publishing is the activity of putting information into the public arena

. Not some secret BS written an a cocktail napkin.

Elections in this case generally means

to elect officers of the org from the membership.

It is easy to understand NACHI's position, it is dificult to DEFEND.

I am going to start selling Dowsers to fellow NACHI members, can I be considered for a spot on the board.