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Old 12/12/08, 1:53 PM
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Default Carpetbaggers Prepare for Missouri Licensing Bill

The bill has not been presented, yet, but that does not stop this carpetbagger from already promoting how his course complies with the new law.

He does come clean on another page, admitting there is no law yet, but encouraging membership in associations other than NACHI until one is passed.

Hhhhmmmm. I wonder who is behind this bill of goods....



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Old 12/12/08, 2:27 PM
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I don't know Jim. These people are sure in the dark about things. Note they say the same thing about Kansas, no licensing requirements.



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Old 12/12/08, 2:30 PM
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I don't know Jim. These people are sure in the dark about things. Note they say the same thing about Kansas, no licensing requirements.
Hopefully, that will turn out to be true for Kansas.

The state budget shortfall has no funds for licensing. The AG has returned the bill to the legislature because it has illegal requirements. What better excuse does the legislature have than to simply trash it?



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Old 12/12/08, 4:48 PM
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I am really hoping, James, that the bill will be squashed. My niece attends Emporia State to be a Kansas teacher, and the state of Kansas is cutting their state funding. If the lawmakers give the home inspectors board money, and cut school funding, the lawmakers all need to be fired, and exposed for what they really are. I hope this is not another Illinois.
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Old 12/12/08, 4:49 PM
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This is one of the major educators for MAR. I know some Realtors who take their online classes to achieve their 12 credits every two years per Missouri licensing requirement.
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Old 12/12/08, 5:20 PM
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This is one of the major educators for MAR. I know some Realtors who take their online classes to achieve their 12 credits every two years per Missouri licensing requirement.
That certainly would explain their enthusiastic optimism.



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Old 12/12/08, 9:42 PM
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The school does not seem very reputable in light of the fact that they list a known diploma mill (ASHI) on their website. As a former REALTOR I still get a lot of emails directed towards REALTORs and just this morning I got another alert reminding me to avoid inspectors who display the ASHI logo. The warning included a link to their 35 second, shazam! online application: http://www.homeinspector.org/join/default.aspx

Hm. I wonder who is behind those 100% accurate, "avoid ASHI inspectors" email alerts? If I were ASHI, I'd be freakin' out. These are killing ASHI members' businesses.



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Old 12/12/08, 9:47 PM
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Hm. I wonder who is behind those 100% accurate, "avoid ASHI inspectors" email alerts? If I were ASHI, I'd be freakin' out. These are killing ASHI members' businesses.
Probably you, would be my guess---
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Nick being as sharp as you are (or seem to be), you don't really believe anyone hires someone because of a club they belong to do you?

I find that hard to believe, because in the real world, it don't work like that---
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Old 12/12/08, 9:51 PM
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My point is that if licensing makes you sick... the 2nd largest so-called professional association's entrance requirements should make you throw up all over the floor.

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Old 12/12/08, 9:52 PM
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Since NACHI is not an association of...as you put it, mere home inspectors...and ASHI is....why do you feel the need to belittle its members?



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My point is that if licensing makes you sick... the 2nd largest so-called professional association's entrance requirements should make you throw up all over the floor.

http://www.homeinspector.org/join/default.aspx
Well it doesn't bother me personally, I could care less, belong to one club or the other--or both.

Simply clubs, with message boards, their fun to belong to at times..!!
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Old 12/12/08, 9:58 PM
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Jim, to answer your question...licensing and ASHI both dump bozos into our profession. The only difference is that most licensing requires little more than money and ASHI requires nothing more than money.

All I'm asking is that you act consistently and spend as much or more effort opposing 35 second online application, diploma mills like ASHI as you do opposing bad licensing. The both suck.

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Old 12/12/08, 10:01 PM
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Jim, to answer your question...licensing and ASHI both dump bozos into our profession. The only difference is that most licensing requires little more than money and ASHI requires nothing more than money.

All I'm asking is that you act consistently and spend as much or more effort opposing ASHI as you do opposing licensing.

http://www.homeinspector.org/join/default.aspx
In my state, ASHI (along with me) opposes the licensing law that you have touted to be "the most HI friendly law on the books".

In this case, my enemy's enemy is my friend.

As for "our profession", I am a home inspector. NACHI is not, nor ever will be again (according to you) an association of "mere home inspectors". Accordingly, I am uncertain as to what you are referring to.



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Old 12/12/08, 11:29 PM
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Believing that ASHI opposes licensing is like believing that McDonald's opposes hamburgers.

You're confusing your local diploma mill members with their national association. I'm sure there are a few vegans working at MickeyDee's too.

You, Jim Bushart, personally, with your hard earned money... fund the dragon that is trying to kill us all with it's crappy legislation and diploma mill entrance requirements: http://www.homeinspector.org/join/default.aspx

ASHI is harmless without your $.



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