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Read the entire story here. ASHI, a known U.S.-based, diploma mill that unconscionably allows anyone to join as an associate using ASHI's 30-second, online application that requires nothing but a valid credit card encourages its come-only-with-cash members to go out and perform a certain number of unqualified inspections for poor, unsuspecting consumers as the only way to achieve full membership. ASHI's highest "certified" membership level isn't much better and relies on passing one beginner's exam (NHIE), once. This is the same exam required by some states to license newbies fresh out of school. In the case of ASHI member Tony Stiles, diploma mill ASHI didn't even require that of him. Real estate agents and consumers should check the ASHI site to make sure their inspector is not a member or financial supporter of this U.S.-based, diploma mill called ASHI. For the best InterNACHI inspector in your neighborhood, visit www.InspectorSEEK.com Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 Last edited by gromicko; 11/29/10 at 3:15 PM.. |
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From what I can tell his biggest mistake was not going through with BBB arbitration as he agreed to.
The phantom skylight issue is a good reason for not using a pre-formatted template as many of the guys do even here I bet. The format involves pre-loading a report as all good and then changing only where there are issues to save time.. |
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There is not one mention of the, or any, real estate agent involved. How did the TV station get a list, or information, about the "two other home buyers"?
Lots of holes in this article. Did the buyers take the recommendation of their agent? Did they ask questions before hiring the inspector? Who was this other inspector? Were the shingles defective, or just "no good"? No professionalism all the way around, from the TV station to the writer. Someone upset someone. Hmmmm. CMI, CPI, KS #0110-0094 Termite #16601 KS Radon #KS-MS-0027 BBB A+ Accredited Business Serving the Greater Kansas City Metro Area Eastern Kansas/Western Missouri http://www.metrospeckc.com "If opportunity doesn't knock, build a door"--Milton Berle |
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Agree. My software alerts me to each and every inspection item that I have not answered (once all unanswered items are answered, I know that I've covered all inspection items per the SOP). If I had a pre-loaded template, that feature would be useless.
Robert Newland Tyrone, GA 30290 NACHI05101290 http://www.CertifiedHI.com http://www.HomeInspectorTyroneGa.com Home Inspection Reports Powered by: HomeGauge eServices |
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I never heard of that. That is insane. James H. Bushart Professional Building Analyst, BPI Missouri, Kansas and Arkansas 314-803-2167 |
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ldapkus is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
Nick,
Weren't you an ASHI member a few years ago? |
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Not to mention names but some of the best inspectors here use that format and Billy just posted with his new template thread that he uses that method.
Great time saver I was thinking of going to, but the fact of the matter is that I list all materials under each component so I would not really save time since in a town like Chicago their is to much variation. I am now convinced not to ever use that format. Pre loaded tips even look bad if you have one on something like checking filters on the furnace and they have a boiler. |
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Regardless of who is doing it...they are courting disaster. Pure laziness, in my opinion. People are not paying for inspections....they are paying for accurate, thorough and unbiased inspection reports. As this article demonstrates (and as many other similar errors that have been made by those taking this shortcut that have so far gone undetected), the preparation of the report is NOT where you want to cut corners. Even the often used phrases that you cut and paste have to be re-read and considered for modification before including it. Licensing solves nothing. James H. Bushart Professional Building Analyst, BPI Missouri, Kansas and Arkansas 314-803-2167 |
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I think that whole report was BS. I am not saying he was right, but something seems fishy.
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ASHI: Click, pay, shazam!... you're an inspector. Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 |
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Unfortunate,
My software reporting (used previously) always defaulted to Poor / Defective... An Element had to be Inspected to be properly rated Missed Elements were automatically Defective unless toggled to an alternative.. Joseph P. Hagarty joseph.hagarty@comcast.net Main Line Inspections, Inc. Phone: 610-399-3675 Email: MainLineHI@comcast.net http://pa.nachi.org/mainlinepa/about.html http://www.householdinspector.com National President / NACHI (2003-2004) NACHI Education Committee Member |
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Nick, I can get a person who has never completed an inspection to become a member of NACHI in 1 day...want to bet?
Comprehensive Building Consultants Naples Home Inspection, Naples Mold Inspection, Naples Radon Inspection, Bonita Springs Home Inspection, Bonita Springs Mold Inspection, Bonita Springs Radon Inspection. Donate here: or send checks to the Fl Home and Insurance Inspector Chapter 1103 W Hibiscus Blvd Ste 311 Melbourne, Fl 32901
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Russell, you work in a state that hasn't completely gone through licensing, so you haven't quite thought it out. Everyone has to have their first client... even you had your first client. Once licensing is adopted, it is impossible to require fee-paid inspection experience, because acquiring that experience would be illegal. Furthermore, no association or government agency can follow you around to make sure the experience you acquired isn't experience doing it wrong. So I forgive ASHI for not requiring any inspection experience of their applicants. What I don't forgive is that they not only have no experience requirement, they have no entrance exam, no quizzes, no courses, no promises... nothing... no entrance requirements whatsoever. Just a 30-second online application that asks for nothing more than a valid credit card.
We had a legally blind person join ASHI just for laughs and we didn't have to commit a fraud or cheat to do it. He was able to join legitimately, because he had a valid credit card. That is all that is required. www.nachi.org/blind.htm Nick Gromicko, Certified Master Inspector Find a Home Inspector "Just as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another." Proverbs 27:17 Last edited by gromicko; 11/29/10 at 6:54 PM.. |
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Please Note:
Brian A. MacNeish is a non-member guest and is in no way affiliated with InterNACHI or its members.
So wasn't Ben until 2004!!
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