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Old 12/1/10, 10:57 AM
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I basically just inspect commercial buildings now, I could really care less about ASHI, NACHI, FABI, NAHI, or any other club which is basically for beginner Home Inspectors trying to learn the ropes, it is good there are associations like NACHI or there would be a LOT more people not being able to ask "What year was this manufactured" or "How would you write this?"

It's good that NACHI has members who do help others who are trying to learn, its just a shame they have to be put down, called idiots, etc; by the time the thread has ended.

It also a shame Nick has to act like a two year old defending his Club against the other Club...silly really, and he actually thinks he is doing some type of bizarre justice by making the childish remarks.

I don't even look at the ASHI message board because its a "Blank Space" in my opinion, when I did look at it once in a while years ago about the only thing interesting would be someone explaining to someone else how to use the word "Too".

I will not renew my membership with them in the future. But I do receive a lot of calls and emails from people who specifically ask if I'm a member of ASHI before they booked a Home Inspection, but since I do not plan on inspecting homes any longer I don't need anyone asking me that question any longer.
Great to hear from you, Dale! You need to come around more often.

You actually arguing with Nick is not helping your case. You just unknowingly reinforce Nick's case. Nick has it out for A$HI, just like he had it out for NAHI. Both associations went after NACHI first. I have never had any problems with NAHI members, so I never had any beef with their organization. Now most of the A$HI members in my area have caused nothing but trouble with their lies. They are really screwing customers over in my area. I get several calls a year from very mad customers of theirs. There are some newbie NACHI inspectors in my area that I would put up against most A$HI inspectors in my area. A$HI inspectors need to understand that boasting that you are a great inspector does not make you so.

Besides giving A$HI members grief about belonging to a diploma mill is fun! I do not hold any grudges against them, even Linas (I like pissing off Linas), except for Dirty Harry from St. Louis mainly because he threatened me. Dirty Harry (like some A$HI members) is a coward and does not like to be called out in public.
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Old 12/1/10, 4:14 PM
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I understand Jimmy, I don't hold it against you. You can't help it that you wouldn't make it as a pimple on an ASHI inspector's a s s let alone an ASHI Associate with logo privileges. Dream on.
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Old 12/1/10, 5:02 PM
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My only real issue with ASHI is their constant condemnation of NACHI.
With NACHI doing the same everything is fine, as long as there is no shift in power.
I do not think anyone in their right mind would want there to be fewer options in membership.
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Old 12/1/10, 5:55 PM
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My only real issue with ASHI is their constant condemnation of NACHI.
With NACHI doing the same everything is fine, as long as there is no shift in power.
I do not think anyone in their right mind would want there to be fewer options in membership.
Do you really think there is room for more than one national organization? I mean what with home inspector licensing being adopted everywhere I find it hard to believe any national home inspection association will be here a decade from now. The next big thingy to pop up will be strong state organizations based on one of the existing models.



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Old 12/2/10, 10:09 AM
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I understand Jimmy, I don't hold it against you. You can't help it that you wouldn't make it as a pimple on an ASHI inspector's a s s let alone an ASHI Associate with logo privileges. Dream on.
So why am I getting more money per home inspection then the A$HI inspectors or any inspectors in my area? Why are most of my clients have a higher degree of education than most home buyers?
You just keep on inspecting the slums, Linas!

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Old 12/2/10, 11:13 AM
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Russell,

Anyone can join ASHI with a credit card.

Anyone can also join NACHI with a credit card.

The difference is that if you claim to be a member of NACHI and cheated to gain entrance by circumventing the requirements, you have committed fraud. ASHI has no requirements to join, only to use their marks. By the same token, if someone at ASHI is using their marks without having fulfilled their requirements, they are also being fraudulent, but can say that they are a member of ASHI without reproach.

I do agree with Jim (I can't believe that) that it is time to separate the 5+ year members from the newbies, but I also know that will never happen.



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Old 12/2/10, 8:06 PM
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I do agree with Jim (I can't believe that) that it is time to separate the 5+ year members from the newbies, but I also know that will never happen.
Only to be held up to scorn by know-it-all Shake & Bake contractors who are still wet behind the ears.



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Old 12/2/10, 9:05 PM
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Do you really think there is room for more than one national organization? I mean what with home inspector licensing being adopted everywhere I find it hard to believe any national home inspection association will be here a decade from now. The next big thingy to pop up will be strong state organizations based on one of the existing models.
Not sure how you or without actually having said it Nick ,figure this to be true.
Ask Nick if membership dropped or rose in states that became Licensed with relative property sales factored in of course.
The Licensed trades vs the non Licensed construction trades still have associations as they are needed for fellowship and education.
Same as with no Licensing.

I myself did not join till after Licensing was adapted in Illinois.
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Old 12/2/10, 9:23 PM
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They (ASHI) have proposed to make several changes to their SOP, including the title.

ASHI Standard Of Professional Practice For Home Inspectors

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Old 12/2/10, 9:56 PM
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Not sure how you or without actually having said it Nick ,figure this to be true.
Ask Nick if membership dropped or rose in states that became Licensed with relative property sales factored in of course.
The Licensed trades vs the non Licensed construction trades still have associations as they are needed for fellowship and education.
Same as with no Licensing.

I myself did not join till after Licensing was adapted in Illinois.
I agree, initially membership has risen for Florida but the majority of the Shake & Bake home inspector licensed through grandfathering won't be renewed along with their home inspector association memberships.

Hard to believe the nation needs more than one National Home Inspection Association.



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Old 12/2/10, 10:21 PM
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I agree, initially membership has risen for Florida but the majority of the Shake & Bake home inspector licensed through grandfathering won't be renewed along with their home inspector association memberships.

Hard to believe the nation needs more than one National Home Inspection Association.
So would you prefer to have only one option of Love it or leave it.?
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