Do you put up CAUTION signs during an inspection ever?

[Marcel R. Cyr]

[Kevin M. Leonard]

Originally Posted by mcyr

Wayne, what is EMF meter? Pardon my ignorance.

I have removed deadfronts while a client is with me, and I will not leave the space in front of the panel until I have looked at what I wanted to see and taken pictures if necessary.
Never leave an open panel.
But this is just me.

Same here. But one day while inspecting a newly constructed 800K home with 2 200 amp panels ( I do one at a time). My client was to the side of me while I was inspecting the nice job the Electrician had done when he, with-out warning, stuck his hand into the panel less than an inch from the bus, and asked, whats this? .
Not only was he less than an inch from death but my heart darn near jumed out of my chest when he did this.

Even though it may look harmless many people just don't know the danger that lurks. So I warn everyone, at every inspection I perform, that is present & I also make sure they keep any children if present back at least 10 feet from the panel.

[Peter Doane]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Billy writes:

That sentence in your agreement won't help.

... because the question at hand isn't whether or not the client understands that there is a risk in participating in an inspection...

.... the question is... was the inspector negligent in increasing that risk by creating what essentially amounts to a human trap?

I predict that this whole case, if tried, will boil down to lighting.

I guess you could assume putting up a ladder against the house to climb up onto the roof,... you need to take the ladder up with you so no one else (client, neighborhood kids etc.) climbs up behind you... or you invited a "human trap" ?

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Gosh quit *****-footing around the issue. When you get started just tell them, that a home inspection is dangerous and they can get killed if they touch anything and have then sit on the couch with the realestator.

[Kevin M. Leonard]

Originally Posted by dbowers

Gosh quit *****-footing around the issue. When you get started just tell them, that a home inspection is dangerous and they can get killed if they touch anything and have then sit on the couch with the realestator.

Are they allowed to use the bathroom?

[Paul Pendley]

Cones.....Smell.....Lawsuit.

[Wayne B. Wilson]

Cones yes Orange Shorts with keep back 50 Feet not

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by wwilson3

Cones yes Orange Shorts with keep back 50 Feet not

Just have Will lay on the floor near the hatch.

[kpierce]

Originally Posted by bboerner

In plain english I do believe Joe is saying we all need to start guarding our open man holes. No?

Only in Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire.

[Brian E. Kelly]

Originally Posted by pdoane

I guess you could assume putting up a ladder against the house to climb up onto the roof,... you need to take the ladder up with you so no one else (client, neighborhood kids etc.) climbs up behind you... or you invited a "human trap" ?

Might be overkill, but then again, ask your insurance agent as to what happens if someone falls off YOUR LADDER.

Or better yet, leave your tool bag on the stairs and find out who is to blame when someone trips over it???

If you open a hatch where people normally walk, and someone falls in you are responsible. (The proverbial you Peter). Now you can dance around the issue all you want and come up with many reasons to dodge your responsibility, and thanks to people like (the proverbial) you we have a lot of employed attorneys.

[Nick Gromicko]

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[Randall M. Cole]

hmmm. interesting.

[jhugenroth]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Might be overkill, but then again, ask your insurance agent as to what happens if someone falls off YOUR LADDER.

Or better yet, leave your tool bag on the stairs and find out who is to blame when someone trips over it???

If you open a hatch where people normally walk, and someone falls in you are responsible. (The proverbial you Peter). Now you can dance around the issue all you want and come up with many reasons to dodge your responsibility, and thanks to people like (the proverbial) you we have a lot of employed attorneys.

I have never seen a crawl space hatch where people normally walk.
Around here they are always in a closet, or at the exterior, or accessed from the basement.

However, if I ever found one in the middle of a room, I would have to protect any idiots that are present with one of these!

[Harold E. Miller]

Joe
The crawl space access in these homes are not in the path of where people would normally walk. If you look up the address on Google Streetview, you can see it is a 60's era (approx) rambler with a one car garage.

Some of these had the crawl space access well in the garage floor up against the wall adjoining the living space. Then planks over the top that are removed. Apparently this is one of them. It would be a pretty good trick to step into one of these, as it is not is a direct path to anywhere in the garage, and if you are watching where you are walking? ...please...

In my opinion, if you are walking, and you trip and fall, into an access, down a flight of stairs, etc. ....it is your own damn fault. PERIOD.

It is appalling to me that this individual has the gall to then turn around and place the blame on the inspector, who is simply doing what he was hired to do.

Of course he is an attorney, doing what they do best.....extortion.

What happened to personal responsibility?

[jhugenroth]

Originally Posted by hmiller

...In my opinion, if you are walking, and you trip and fall, into an access, down a flight of stairs, etc. ....it is your own damn fault. PERIOD.

It is appalling to me that this individual has the gall to then turn around and place the blame on the inspector, who is simply doing what he was hired to do.

Of course he is an attorney, doing what they do best.....extortion.

What happened to personal responsibility?

Ditto