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Old 6/23/10, 11:37 PM
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Default Does anyone have reference to Arizona law prohibiting inspectors from participating..

... in preferred vendor schemes?



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Old 6/24/10, 12:27 AM
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give me a minute Nick

http://www.btr.state.az.us/regulatio...olicy.asp#HOME INSPECTOR PREFERRED VENDOR OR SIMILAR PROGRAMS

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Old 6/24/10, 1:03 AM
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Arizona Administrative Code Section R4-30-301.01(B)(1) prohibits a Certified Home Inspector from paying compensation, even in an indirect manner, in order to obtain a referral for home inspection business. Many real estate companies, offices, brokers and/or agents have established programs under various names (i.e., "preferred vendor," "approved vendor," "marketing partner") in which the home inspector makes a financial payment to the real estate entity to be included on a list of recommended inspectors, preferred providers or part of a similar program.
The Board believes that payment by Certified Home Inspectors to real estate entities or other parties who have a financial interest in the real estate transaction, to be included on a list of recommended inspectors, preferred providers, or similar program, is at a minimum an indirect payment for referral of business by the party to the Certified Home Inspector and violates A.A.C. R4-30-301.01(B)(1).
Filed with the Secretary of State on 1-16-04.
APPLICABLE LAWS
Arizona Revised Statutes §§ 32-106(A)(5), and -128.
Arizona Administrative Code, Title 4, Chapter 30, R4-30-301.01(B)(1).
Then what the hell is this??? (see right column of vendor types, second one down):
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Old 6/24/10, 1:05 AM
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Keller Williams is coercing home inspectors to commit crimes. No?



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Old 6/24/10, 1:21 AM
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Keller Williams is coercing home inspectors to commit crimes. No?
They all have the "Programs" Nick....Pity some folks have to stoop so low to get work, and then write soft reports to stay in the "Program".

I'd bet there are a LOT of inspectors doing it.
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Default Re: Does anyone have reference to Arizona law prohibiting inspectors from participati

Up here I just found out that 2 inspection companies actually rent office space in a brokers office.
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Old 6/24/10, 3:15 AM
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Then what the hell is this??? (see right column of vendor types, second one down):
Laws are funny things Nick....The Law as written says Home Inspectors are not to participate in the "Programs", it has no Bearing whatsoever on what Real Estate Companies do.....
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Old 6/24/10, 1:02 PM
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Keller Williams should not be trying to entice home inspectors into performing criminal acts.



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All state laws, whether in Kansas or Arizona, were made to be broken.

Last year, I paid Keller-Williams $300 to be placed in their "red book" list. This is a book containing homes for sale that they put out monthly, and at the back pages are pages of vendors that are "prefered" or who "paid". I was on that list, but got little in return. If they promoted the book, who knows. There were always some in a rack at the entry of K/W offices.

I was not asked, or solicited to be on the list this year.

I was also asked to pay one RE office $125 a year to be allowed to have a brochure container full of my brochures/coupons near agent boxes. I declined. With the economy the way it is, everyone is paying to get any kind of business. No matter what business you are in, it is pay to play.

I worked in the corporate world for years, and could not do any business with any vender unless they paid an "enterence" fee. Then, I forced them to pay one to two dollars a case to my "earned income" account that the company owned, before I could do any business with them. It is rampant in every corporation in the world; including InterNACHI.



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We contacted Keller Williams today and requested that they remove home inspectors from that form.



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Gary -

As you pointed out, bus is slower than slow. So we need to adapt.

I've started a Preferred Vendor Program for Realtors & Lenders.

I have a Silver / Gold / Platinum Level. Depending on how much they PAY ME depends on which level of service I'll provide them.

In my Platinum Program / They pay $8,237 p/year AND I provide QUICK inspections (avertaging 1.5 hours or less); reports delivered ON-SITE with a Boiler-Plate Computerized (Say Nothing) 4 page checklist (like one of our BIG engineering firms uses); My reports are really SOFT; and I charge the clients only $325 for a home, termite and radon test.

Fast, cheap and soft - Everything they ever wanted FOR only $8,237 p/yr.
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We contacted Keller Williams today and requested that they remove home inspectors from that form.
Thank You Nick....
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Gary -

As you pointed out, bus is slower than slow. So we need to adapt.

I've started a Preferred Vendor Program for Realtors & Lenders.

I have a Silver / Gold / Platinum Level. Depending on how much they PAY ME depends on which level of service I'll provide them.

In my Platinum Program / They pay $8,237 p/year AND I provide QUICK inspections (avertaging 1.5 hours or less); reports delivered ON-SITE with a Boiler-Plate Computerized (Say Nothing) 4 page checklist (like one of our BIG engineering firms uses); My reports are really SOFT; and I charge the clients only $325 for a home, termite and radon test.

Fast, cheap and soft - Everything they ever wanted FOR only $8,237 p/yr.
So if I was an agent and paid you 8237 for the year, you will inspect how many homes for me? I could see a few agents teaming up to look like one and them they just slam you all for 8237? yes no?
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Old 6/24/10, 7:28 PM
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We contacted Keller Williams today and requested that they remove home inspectors from that form.
and IMO they will do noting.....?
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So if I was an agent and paid you 8237 for the year, you will inspect how many homes for me? I could see a few agents teaming up to look like one and them they just slam you all for 8237? yes no?
You have a hard time with Irony/Sarcasm, don't you.............
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