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Old 8/23/09, 10:41 AM
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LICENSE: DISAGREE! 100% is the customer job to do his own DD and select the correct inspector for the job, period! Just because you can pass a stupid test and obtain a license that does not mean that you have the skills to perform an honest, unbiased and thorough job. ALSO IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT INCAHOOTS WITH A REALTOR.

Uneducated, unskillful, inexperience and blind inspectors are a dime a dozen. Struggling to make a living because they thought that this business was to make easy money. From minimum wages to $75 top $125.hr quite enticing... But the reality is different. So these mediocre inspectors are leaving the industry in records numbers. I see a hint of this happening in our area. Our success in this business is based in the loyalty to our client period. ZERO TOLERANCE WHEN INSPECTING A HOUSE. I love when they call me a DK. So, what will license will do = NOTHING. It will confuse our customers because they will rely just in the license to hire an inspector. Who will win: Government, schools and mediocre inspectors?

I hope you do not fall in this category ...................We need a coalition of veteran, educated, knowledgeable and tough inspectors to take the lead in this matter. Along with the MASTER of InterNACHI we shall overcome this non sense. Grandfathering in shall be based in education, experience and expertise. If an individual have been in business for 4 to 8 years and continue to make a living and maintain the high standards imposed by his or her association with no complains should be entitle to be grandfather in.


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Old 8/23/09, 12:46 PM
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Instead, let's meet the night before and have a group marketing meeting.

Where and when and I'll drive up (five hours).




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Old 8/23/09, 1:05 PM
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Nick when is this meeting I would like to attend and do what ever is necessary.



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Old 8/23/09, 1:13 PM
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I can't wait to see you all. I have a plan.

So what is NACHIs (Nicks) new position on licensing? It must have changed since you are getting involved in Floridas licensing.



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Old 8/23/09, 1:20 PM
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Not sure why you guys are debating about licensing. We are going to be licensed. No matter how wrong you think it is.

Lets look at the facts:

1. Licensing will happen some time next year.
2. No one is going to be happy with all of the requirements of licensing.
3. Licensing is not going to raise the number of inspectors in the state.
4. Licensing is going to remove all of the fly by nighters that are in the business now.
5. Grandfathering is not a part of the bill as it stands now.

Everything else is just speculation.



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Old 8/23/09, 1:40 PM
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No change in our position on licensing.



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Old 8/23/09, 2:01 PM
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The exam should be easy, that is not the problem. The problem is that I'm tire paying so much money to the state for nothing in return. Additionally, anybody can pass the exam; does that make you a qualified home inspector...?? We will have everybody and there brother taking the dam test and then what..
Perhaps a 4 years experience requirement like the mold inspector license would help. Currently the new law has no experience requirements for HI's. We just went to a workshop about a week ago on the east coast with over 250 mold inspectors/remediators and everyone is excited about the new law. "get the bums out" of the mold business was very popular statement.
If you believe experience is important and I agree, then HI's should have an experience requirement.

Just call us excited about 2010!




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Old 8/23/09, 3:41 PM
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Not sure why you guys are debating about licensing. We are going to be licensed. No matter how wrong you think it is.

Lets look at the facts:

1. Licensing will happen some time next year.
2. No one is going to be happy with all of the requirements of licensing.
3. Licensing is not going to raise the number of inspectors in the state.
4. Licensing is going to remove all of the fly by nighters that are in the business now.
5. Grandfathering is not a part of the bill as it stands now.

Everything else is just speculation.
Greg is right about all his points. There is no reason to debate over license or not....that time is over. There will be no rallying to stop licensing, it has already occured. The only thing left to discuss is the implementation by DBPR and how it effects the existing inspectors in the industry. Trying to do anything else could seriously hurt NACHI and its inspectors position with regards to grandfathering as the DBPR is solely responsible for doing at the direction of the governor.



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Old 8/23/09, 6:27 PM
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If the state of Florida's licensing is similar to Illinois then hold on to your wallets... inspectors..

Sounds like the same issues and concerns. We went through the process. Pay 400 bucks every two years and get a lot of NOTHING.
ASHI was heavy into the process.. ASHI head quarters are in Illinois.. ASHI based testing and now we don't have enough state personnel to handle those who don't even have the proper "credentials" working as inspectors.. How is our enforcement? WEAK!
SOP.. ok...fine yet You cover just the SOP and forget the rest. That is nice so you get sued anyway.... Realtors have heavy input in the process of HI licensing. Not for your benefit but so it doesn't slow down the process for their transaction. 5 days for client...JOKE.. client hires you in three days and needs everything from you in 12 hours... you get 48 hours NOT business days..

Pay to go to school (ASHI sponsored ) 2,300 bucks and join ASHI to sit as a nobody..HAH! Now you work your ***** off to pay bills... 400 for licensing, 2,300 education, and the 400 for business license.. Now add CE credits for every licensing cycle..300 and up.. This is just the beginning. But wait..Just undercharge every inspector so you can "earn" full membership in ASHI... charge $175.00 for anything and everything..

Wait till your required to pay for insurance... We haven't got to that point yet..

We have to ask is it in the best interest of the consumer or just a method to find new sources of revenue for the state....and someones interest.
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Old 8/23/09, 7:53 PM
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Now add CE credits for every licensing cycle..300 and up..
Not in Illinois: http://www.nachi.org/moreillinoislicenses.htm



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Old 8/23/09, 7:55 PM
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You got that right Nick..

We are taking care of that...
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Old 8/23/09, 7:57 PM
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Thanks to you Patrick .



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Old 8/23/09, 8:00 PM
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I have no doubt that NACHI TV will dominate the CE requirements in Florida.



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Old 8/23/09, 8:23 PM
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I have no doubt that NACHI TV will dominate the CE requirements in Florida.
That would be great, but I have nothing but doubt about how this process will unfold. It will benefit only those in the political arenas with political power. I am originally from New Jersey and trust me the NJ and NY mobs got nothing on FL politicians when it comes to constructing schemes to fleece the public through covert rulemaking behind closed doors designed to protect the citizenry.
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Old 8/23/09, 8:33 PM
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That would be great, ... I am originally from New Jersey
InterNACHI members get their state-required CE in New Jersey for free too: http://www.nachi.org/newjerseyapprovesinternachi2008.htm

If ASSHI members had any brains they'd be InterNACHI members.



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