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Old 5/4/07, 9:24 AM
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Default Fl Sb 2234 On The Governors Desk

Hi to All:

The Bill is on the Governor's Action Report. When the Bill gets sent to Him, He will have 14 days to decide what to do. Now is the time to flood his office with emails, phone calls, and letters. Florida ASHI opposes this Bill. I have not received info from FABI.

In summary, the Bill will require EVERYONE to complete a Department approved education class of 120 hours. You will need to complete an additional 14 hours of CE every year. Regardless if you have been in business for years.

No one can be employed by your company unless they have completed the 120 hr education requirements. Your secretary or silent business partner will have to comply with this requirement.

1,000,000 Million Dollar E&O & GL is required for all Mold Inspectors.

The Bill will cost the State more than 1/2 Million dollars a year to enforce. The Florida Tax Payer should not have to pay for a poorly written Bill.

Contact the Governor Today!



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Old 5/4/07, 3:36 PM
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Hi Jay,
good luck with that one!

CJ
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Old 5/4/07, 5:26 PM
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Would it be helpful for your governor to know that similar bills failed to pass in three other states this year? If so, we can get folks from these three other states (MO, KS, and NH) to contact him with you.



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Old 5/4/07, 5:43 PM
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Default Re: Fl Sb 2234 On The Governors Desk

Everybody flood chuckles the clown with e-mail.



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Old 5/4/07, 6:28 PM
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The licensing proponents in Florida believed they were going to get something equivalent to Mom's Sunday roasted chicken dinner with all the fixings, half way through the session they were willing to settle for chicken salad but it appears that all the House & Senate were able to sling together is something resembling chicken*****. I hope the Governor doesn't dine on this repast he might be in for a bit of indigestion.

GOOD NEWS:

Grandfathering is basically out, everyone must comply with the requirements by July 1, 2010 there is no exceptions for experience or years of service. Which means everyone must pass whatever test is required, have a High School diploma and complete 120 hours of HI education. If you calculate about $20 per credit hour you can figure on spending $3000 for education to get your license.


BAD NEWS:

Grandfathering is guaranteed under the Sunrise Act, the state can't enact licensing laws that put existing business out of business, so it appears that this bill is in direct opposition to a law which has been on the books since 1981.

Here is a link to what I believe is the final text that is being sent to the Governor, read it and plan your strategy accordingly.



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Old 5/4/07, 7:26 PM
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Thank you for your posting. 2234 is not a hot button topic in the state right now. If he does follow up and sign the bill, he will be forced to "plug in" the sunshine law, It seems that 2010 is the turn on date. I wonder if they would be smart enough to make the "schooling" part of the bill even with the sunshine act in place. I will sent you a dollar if he signs the Bill.

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Old 5/4/07, 9:41 PM
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He will sign it without reading it.



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1,000,000 Million Dollar E&O & GL is required for all Mold Inspectors.

How about 1 million dollars E&O & GL is required for all mold assessors.
We have carried 1 million dollars E&O on all of our mold inspectors for years,
with 2 million minimum for G&L. Few, if any "real" mold inspectors would perform mold inspections without it. I'm not familar with the mold bill but the E&O requirement may help eliminate the "testers" pretending to be mold inspectors. The mold industry has evolved in the last few years, and too many inspectors have not realized it. Lab analysis only reports are not a mold inspection report. I really don't know if the mold part of the bill is going to help Florida or not but the mold business needs a good housecleaning.
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Old 5/5/07, 3:57 PM
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How long have you been in Business Doug.



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Old 5/5/07, 4:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gporter
Everybody flood chuckles the clown with e-mail.
I sent him this, today.

Quote:
Dear Governor Crist,

There are special interest groups who are in the business of marketing their services through legislation, and they have been attacking the home inspection industry for several years. SB 2234 and HB 1399 represent their efforts in Florida, this year.

A particular home inspection school lobbies heavily for legislation that require home inspectors to take its classes in order to be licensed. Your tax payers wind up footing the bill for enforcing a law that sends students into their classrooms and tuition funds into their bank accounts.

Instructors of a certain home inspection association are offered teaching jobs with this school in their state, if they are successful in helping to get the law passed.

You will recognize them in the bill offering courses in increments of 60 hours (120 hours, 180 hours, etc). This number was not picked arbitrarily. It is how this one particular school breaks down its courses and a law naming these numbers of hours mirror its curriculum and make it readily accessible.

These same courses offered by the same institution through hastily formed, make-believe home inspector "coalitions" were found in the failed bills defeated in Missouri, Kansas, New Hampshire and Washington this year alone.

Please do not allow your state to be fooled by these folks.

There are several flaws in this legislation that have already been pointed out to you by many others in the emails and telephone calls you have received. Any one of these is reason enough for a veto, by themselves.

Please add your state to the growing list of states that have become wise to the underhanded efforts of a few carpetbaggers looking for a way to get rich at your expense...and the expense of the taxpayers of your state.

Veto these bills, sir.


Jim Bushart
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Old 5/5/07, 7:23 PM
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Default Re: Fl Sb 2234 On The Governors Desk

We just checked the vote history for the State House and there is no vote history. Unless the web information yet needs to be updated, how can the "Bill" be on the Governor's desk without both passages from the State Legislature? Wasn't the last day for the State Legislature Friday?

In addition, there is no information provided regarding the "Bill" on the "Governors Action Desk;" For example, no 14-date veto period.



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Old 5/5/07, 9:59 PM
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Outstanding letter. Can someone please give him a greenie I cannot do it until I spread more rep around.



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Old 5/5/07, 10:03 PM
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I cannot believe someone gave me a neg from a post from a year ago. So much for ever getting that 2nd green box. Dang it.



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Old 5/5/07, 11:05 PM
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Keep going I got another.



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