Florida Licensing Bill - Action Soon

[Steve Kallao]

Can someone give me a link to read the final bill that is on Gov.Crist desk?

[wsiegel]

http://www.flsenate.gov/data/session...df/s2234er.pdf

[Joe Farsetta]

I had a lengthy talk with Nick, before and after his meeting with the Governor.

Nick believes the meeting was productive, but also made it cryatal clear to me that he believes, no matter what, that the bill wil be signd into law by the Governor.

Always being the optimist (Nick), rather than the pessimist (yours truly), Nick is not seeing the bill as being bad al the way around. Aside from that, the Governor told him "there WILL be home inspector licensing".

From what Nick was told, one of the reasons the governor favors the bill is tha he believes that it will have no effect on those already performing mold testing. Further, h believes the law is extremely fair in that it allows 3 years for all inspectors to comply with the law's requirements, and that no one is exempt.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

That was pretty much a given, however, was the total lack of an SOP addressed. This bill puts requirements on the home inspector that is virtually impossible or the very least makes the HI vulnerable without any written "standard" to inspect to. This alone may prove to be the reason for many to leave the profession; unwilling to hang their butts out on a limb while the State decides what they want to do next. All of this has been pointed out time and again but to no effect.

[Nick Gromicko]

NAHI, who is behind the hard push for this lousy Bill (along with some financial help from FABI), has a grade school mentality. If NACHI is going to take the snow fort in Florida, they'd rather destroy it all first for everyone. The blame goes to those who pay NAHI and FABI membership dues. We should list their names for all to see on a page of shame.

[Mathew Hawley]

As long as our pre-inspection agreement states that our inspection follows NACHI's SOP's we should be fine.

FABI has many changes planned for this bill, you can count on that. It's up to us as NACHI members to get involved with the changes and create a bill that is fair to all, and offers both consumer and inspector protection.

We have to get organized and involved with the workshops that are going to take place in the fine tuning process of this bill - We should even create our own workshops.

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

Once a bill becomes law, trying to fine tune it is like trying to put toothpaste back into the tube; it just gets messier and worse with each and every attempt. Think tax codes and you will have a perfect illustration. Just one of the elements of this bill I see causing problems is the requirement for a HI to determine when a piece of equipment or home component is going to fail or break down. In order to do that you will need a crystal ball and/or have to know the life expectancy of every brand, system and model of every home component.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by gromicko

NAHI, who is behind the hard push for this lousy Bill (along with some financial help from FABI), has a grade school mentality. If NACHI is going to take the snow fort in Florida, they'd rather destroy it all first for everyone. The blame goes to those who pay NAHI and FABI membership dues. We should list their names for all to see on a page of shame.

If your going to list names on a page of shame, What about the majority of the 1500 + or - Fla inspectors [ Marketed to the public as " certified inspectors" ] that only HI qualificiations are taking an online nonproctored quiz, and promising to complete other non verified " certificiation" requirements?

[rwand1]

Dan

Your theory for the six hundreth time does not hold water. Writing a test is not a measurement of inspection skills out on the street. Why do you keep suggesting it does considering you haven't been able to ever provide any proof to the contrary?

On the other hand you continually show your lack of intelligence as an ASHI member.

[PAUL J. MAGRONE]

The people who put the bill together are morons. Fighting among inspectors is asinine. Inspectors that have nothing to do with this trash are not to blame. The problem here is the bill is a useless piece of garbage that does nothing to protect anyone. It also proves money can but anything. Thank you Florida Republican party and my biggest voting mistake ever, Charlie Crist. You have showed me that corruption and agenda driven legislation is alive and well in Florida. Now we all have to figure out what the hell this bill will really do. To do that we all sit and wait while others continue to put mix together more crap as they prepare the final product. I maintain, legislation for the sake of legislation is a mistake. Are the politicians that are sending this bill right on through asses or did they just not read it. This sounds like all of those morons that claim they were mislead by the Bush administration when they could have just read the damn intelligence like someone responsible would do. This is going to be the biggest cluster **** ever because based on the bill, no one involved in putting it together actually gives the appearance of knowing what they are doing. The fact that Charlie Crist plans on signing it says a lot about his lack of interest in doing what is right, and his integrity. And personally, I cannot believe that I belong to one of the largest associations and we were completely impotent in stopping this crap. What ever happened to strength in numbers and majority rules? I guess the dollar signs cloud everything in politics. To say I am disappointed is an understatement.

[Mathew Hawley]

FABI was well ORGANIZED and helped push and finance this bill. We have to start a well ORGANIZED Florida NACH Chapter, even if we have to pay membership dues.

All we can do now is get organized and have NACHI involved in the decision making process. There will be many changes with this bill, we need to all try to work together, no matter what HI Org one belongs too.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by dharris

If your going to list names on a page of shame, What about the majority of the 1500 + or - Fla inspectors [ Marketed to the public as " certified inspectors" ] that only HI qualificiations are taking an online nonproctored quiz, and promising to complete other non verified " certificiation" requirements?

Dang it...3 red boxes in a row from this post..

Guess this email from one of your members a while back says a lot.

Dan you really know how to pi.. people off , I love it

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I guess I pis--e- off a few, simply by telling the truth, they must of not loved it

[PAUL J. MAGRONE]

What is the truth? Is it that a bunch of has beens want to stir up as much **** as they can. It seems to me that some in the industry would like the industry to go backwards. We are home inspectors, not code inspectors, contractors, or engineers. The service we provide is a "generalist inspection". You do not have to be a rocket scientist to do this work. What qualifies a person to perform a home inspection? Is it not just a basic knowledge of all of the aspects of a home's construction and the ability to bring forth to a clients attention a possible issue. Just who in the hell do some of you people think you are? A good inspector is someone who takes the time needed to do the job right and communicates well with his or her clients. It is amazing to me that some of you out there think that what you do is better than what some others do. Experience counts for some things but anyone who has taken the time to learn this business and has managed to stay in this business during a slow market must be doing something right. Get off your freaking high horses and remember that you are only a home inspector, just like all of the other home inspectors out there. The fact that you have a problem with one association or another indicates a weakness in your own confidence. If one group feels they need to push bad legislation to get ahead, it must mean that they truly are bitter and long for the old days or just plain have no confidence in their ability to get ahead in the free marker place. Years from now you will all see just how bad of an idea it was to impose this crap on all of the inspectors in this industry. It is really sad that there are people that actually believe that they are somehow better than others based on the group they belong to.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by dharris

.......I guess I pis--e- off a few, simply by telling the truth, they must of not loved it

Your so called "truth" is worthless as usual.

But apparently to subscribe to the belief that if you tell a lie often enough people will belive it. How sad that your life is so cloulded dharris.

Please get some help and move on.

[wsiegel]

Just to set the record straight, FABI did not finance the bill this year. Last year and the year before they were very involved both in backing and financing the bill. This year they sat on the sidelines. NAHI was the major backer and pusher of this bill. Up until its last changes it was not a bad bill. It was totallly rewritten into the garbage it is now at the last hour before it went on the floor.