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Old 6/10/07, 10:44 PM
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Nick:

Please send this out to Florida NACHI Members.

Senate Bill 2234 has passed the Florida Legislature. It will soon be on the desk of the Governor this week. It is vital as a Florida Home Inspector and/or Mold Inspector that you become familiar with the proposed law. Copy and paste the following link in your browser for the full Bill Text. http://www.flsenate.gov/data/session...df/s2234er.pdf

Some of the highlights:

No Standards of Practice or Code of Ethics
No Grandfathering Clause - All Inspectors MUST Comply by July 2010
120 Hrs of State Approved Education, Pass State Approved Exam, Pay $200+ per year for license, General Liability and E&O Provision
No Statute of Limitations for liability. Plead No Contest in Court, License May Be Jeopardized

For more information Please visit the NACHI Message Board State Legislation Forum at www.nachi.org

Executive Office of the Governor Switchboard: (850) 488-7146 [Office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time]
Fax: (850) 487-0801

http://www.flgov.com/contact_form

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Jay Schwartz, Director of Legislative Affairs - FL NACHI



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Old 6/10/07, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: Florida Licensing Bill - Action Soon

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Originally Posted by gromicko
The law is an absolute poison pill for FABI, you can kiss them goodnight.
I have to agree, this year FABI pissed away 60% of their members dues on the promotion of licensing in conjunction with NAHI and absolutely no one knows who they are.

The FABI standards almost mirror the ASHI standards and when this bill goes into effect, my wife will be eligible to get a license, all FABI members superior qualifications will be equalized to my wife's skill-set overnight.



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Old 6/10/07, 10:52 PM
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Joe:

Thanks again for your unwavering effort.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:04 PM
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Every inspector (not just NACHI members) should oppose this legislation. However, having said that.... if it should become enacted, I have a plan.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:05 PM
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Joe Burkeson nailed it. Good post. However, I want to say one more thing in my next post...



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Old 6/10/07, 11:08 PM
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Go ahead say it.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:13 PM
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The day after licensing becomes law, technical competence no longer means anything.... it becomes an all out MARKETING RACE!

FABI is not a marketing organization and NAHI is worse (NAHI actually un-sells its members). ASHI (stronger at marketing) is only strong at marketing ASHI, not so strong at marketing its members. It is ironic that the associations that most pushed for creating this marketing race are the ones who have no tools to compete in it. Which is why FABI and NAHI members are about to take a beatin'. FABI, being a state association has a tougher problem than NAHI in that 100% of their membership is affected, whereas FL is only one state for NAHI and not really a big state for them. Like I said... kiss FABI goodnight. They are history.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:17 PM
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Buyer: How can I get a Home Inspection
Realtor: Just pick from this list, they are all licensed
Buyer: How much do you charge.
HI: I belong to NACHI. I charge $350
Buyer's second call: How much do you charge?
HI (Independent): I am licensed and I charge $99
Buyer: Sounds great! Your Hired!



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Old 6/10/07, 11:19 PM
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I should explain what I mean by a marketing org with this example: Recently (this past year), what we've spent on the MoveInCertified, FetchReport project alone (I think IT told me they wrote 59,000 lines of code for FetchReport and the online electronic agreement thingie) probably exceeds in dollars, FABI's and NAHI's entire combined gross income.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:21 PM
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After the inspection.....

HI: Hey I can fix that fascia for $500. The State allows me to do it as long as I do it after the closing.

Buyer: Great. I am glad you put estimated cost $1000 to fix it in the inspection report. The seller never saw it coming.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:21 PM
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Jay, your post #53 certainly describes the problem as well as demonstrates how it is a problem for ALL inspectors (regardless of association affiliation).

I just happen to believe I have the solution. This probably sounds quite cocky to those who don't know me personally. Nevertheless... it is true. NACHI members should expect no less from me. I won't fail you.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:24 PM
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The repair provision was inserted by NAHI. They love it.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:25 PM
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Nick:

Looking forward to seeing you in August.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:31 PM
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Jay writes
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The repair provision was inserted by NAHI. They love it.
NAHI is the most unethical trade association of any trade association (not just home inspectors) in world history. No doubt about it. But there are cheaters in every profession. We simply have to work harder to defeat their sleaze.



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Old 6/10/07, 11:44 PM
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I know Russel Ray and Joe Farsetta are going to hit the ceiling, but we really need to install a membership cap for Florida right now.



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