I found something very strange in the FL HI licensing law.

[John Shishilla]

Originally Posted by ebancroft

This is what I was told months ago by a supervisor for a GC.

" We have a home inspector doing Wind Mits and 4 points for us. He does the inspections and refers us for the repairs and we sign his forms for him.
He's working 7 days a week to keep up."

I tried to tell him if the inspector screwed up they would be the ones on the hook !!

" Oh he does a good job, and any thing that's border line he reports and we get to fix it. "

Most unethical... but then it does not surprise me at all. Technically the contractor is doing both, the home inspector is an employee or sub.

[Ed Bancroft]

John,

Yes, technically, except the client does not realize this. They think they have hired a home inspecter from abc? home inspection and he just happens to know a good local GC that can do there repairs and upgrades.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Your contractor and Realtor relationship you described sounds familiar to me. Most of the inspectors and Realtors in my area have about the same relationship. Sad but true.

[Dennis J. Bonner]

many contractors already offer free or discounted inspections, i.e-$150, which will include an estimate to repair and/or replace any problem areas. its better than a free estimate

[John Cahill]

Using home inspection to sell other products is the future of the business. It is impossible to regulate ethics. Show me any rule and I will show you a way around it. Cry “ethics" you may but money talks and BS walks.

Inspectors are guilty of the mayhem they created. All home inspection licensing law and ethics rules written in the past 30 years has been to protect the industry under the guise of protecting the consumer.

Home inspection has torn itself to shreds by imposing Standards written to tell the consumer what they must have rather than providing a service the consumer defines.

Today's inspections take 3 to 6 hours. A good major defect inspection can be done in 30 minutes. People look at the 20 page reports, shake their heads and lay them to the side because 1) they do not understand them 2) they do not care about 90% of what is said.

In Texas people are forced to pay to be told their home does not meet code but are denied life span statements. In the real world the consumer wants to know “money pit” problems and how long something will last. Inspectors do all they can to deny that and then tell then the consumer the GFCI is not current.

Most home inspectors are nothing more than savior personalities running amok.

The home inspectors that succeed in the future will be the ones that give the consumer what they want regardless of the over regulation and useless ethics rules. It cannot be stopped.

End of rant

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

Amen!

[Ed Bancroft]

Originally Posted by jcahill

Using home inspection to sell other products is the future of the business. It is impossible to regulate ethics. Show me any rule and I will show you a way around it. Cry “ethics" you may but money talks and BS walks.

Inspectors are guilty of the mayhem they created. All home inspection licensing law and ethics rules written in the past 30 years has been to protect the industry under the guise of protecting the consumer.

Home inspection has torn itself to shreds by imposing Standards written to tell the consumer what they must have rather than providing a service the consumer defines.

Today's inspections take 3 to 6 hours. A good major defect inspection can be done in 30 minutes. People look at the 20 page reports, shake their heads and lay them to the side because 1) they do not understand them 2) they do not care about 90% of what is said.

In Texas people are forced to pay to be told their home does not meet code but are denied life span statements. In the real world the consumer wants to know “money pit” problems and how long something will last. Inspectors do all they can to deny that and then tell then the consumer the GFCI is not current.

Most home inspectors are nothing more than savior personalities running amok.

The home inspectors that succeed in the future will be the ones that give the consumer what they want regardless of the over regulation and useless ethics rules. It cannot be stopped.

End of rant

...........Interesting

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jcahill

Using home inspection to sell other products is the future of the business. It is impossible to regulate ethics. Show me any rule and I will show you a way around it. Cry “ethics" you may but money talks and BS walks.

Inspectors are guilty of the mayhem they created. All home inspection licensing law and ethics rules written in the past 30 years has been to protect the industry under the guise of protecting the consumer.

Home inspection has torn itself to shreds by imposing Standards written to tell the consumer what they must have rather than providing a service the consumer defines.

Today's inspections take 3 to 6 hours. A good major defect inspection can be done in 30 minutes. People look at the 20 page reports, shake their heads and lay them to the side because 1) they do not understand them 2) they do not care about 90% of what is said.

In Texas people are forced to pay to be told their home does not meet code but are denied life span statements. In the real world the consumer wants to know “money pit” problems and how long something will last. Inspectors do all they can to deny that and then tell then the consumer the GFCI is not current.

Most home inspectors are nothing more than savior personalities running amok.

The home inspectors that succeed in the future will be the ones that give the consumer what they want regardless of the over regulation and useless ethics rules. It cannot be stopped.

End of rant

Astute.

[James H. Bushart]

Let me put it another way.....

Licensing solves nothing.

[John Shishilla]

I certainly never stopped a contractor from being crappy

[John Cahill]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Let me put it another way.....

Licensing solves nothing.

We agree!

I could support educational requirements but the SoP and enforcement needs to be a civil matter and not a bureaucratic empire. Happily I am nearing retirement so the burden falls on new guys.

[David Sorge]

It's not surprising at all (the outcome of licensing), and is the end result of the different HI "factions" not speaking as one voice.

Builders and contractors outnumber us VASTLY...all the more reason for HI's to put their differences aside and at least in a legislative sense, speak as one.

We expend so much freakin effort differentiating one HI assn. from another...we forget how much we're all the same, and who we really represent in the end. The real problem is that we air these differences publicly as if no one but HI's read these web sites.

Our industry deserves everything it gets from this legislation.

[Mathew Hawley]

All the association bashing is ignorant. All associations are good and provide a means for inspectors to increase their knowledge and improve their business. I chose NACHI because they have the most to offer in my opinion. We need to stand together and fine tune this Bill so it's is fair to all and provides protection to both inspectors and consumers. We need a grandfather clause that will not disrupt or hurt anyone currently in business and that has an SOP and COE.

We need to work together, take control of our industry and fine tune this Bill.

See You In Orlando.

[Joe Farsetta]

This says it all...

Inspectors are guilty of the mayhem they created. All home inspection licensing law and ethics rules written in the past 30 years has been to protect the industry under the guise of protecting the consumer.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

This says it all...

And...as Nick has pointed out...there is only one national association who has partnered with the NAR to make this happen.