Goofy NHIE asks questions well outside of the SOP of a home inspection.

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/documents/NHIE-results.pdf

[Nick Gromicko]

Lawn Irrigation Systems?

Pool and Spa Systems?

Common Permanently Installed Kitchen Appliances?

[Harry F. Johnson, II]

Nick, What is up with this?
I have not taken my national exam as of yet. Should I be studying up on those topics? I guess the answer may depend on if I want to pass or not.

[Nick Gromicko]

The NHIE is free to be goofy. We are filing a lawsuit against licensing board members who used their positions of power to harm individual Americans by voting to require them to pass such a goofy exam to keep their livelihood. The Cohen boys smell class action.

[hspeakman]

Originally Posted by hjohnson6

Nick, What is up with this?
I have not taken my national exam as of yet. Should I be studying up on those topics? I guess the answer may depend on if I want to pass or not.

Harry be prepared...Irregardless if you study countless hours for this exam either by going on-line with InterNACHI or more studying. The type of questions you think you are accustomed to will be so re-arranged by this firm who developed the test. The test is suppose to prove that you are competent is going out and provide the client a fair service. I personally took this exam not too long ago and before I took it. I paid $50.00 extra dollars to take their sample test which was a joke and waste of money. The sample test questions were not on the test itself. The NHIE is a joke and a fraud testing gimmick to loose potential good home inspectors. There are questions on this exam that are outside of the NACHI standards of practice, ASHI Standards of Practice and the volunteer State of Tennessee that is not on their respective Standards of Practice. So is this a general question of "Darn if you do or Darn if you don't"? This test was developed out of Illinois and PSI out of Nevada is somewhere in this chain. Is this a fraud system. I personally believe so. Should we stand back and ignore this? I don't think so.
http://www.homeinspectionexam.org

[Nick Gromicko]

The NHIE is a joke and a fraud

I agree.

[hspeakman]

Originally Posted by gromicko

The NHIE is free to be goofy. We are filing a lawsuit against licensing board members who used their positions of power to harm individual Americans by voting to require them to pass such a goofy exam to keep their livelihood. The Cohen boys smell class action.

Hats off to the "Cohen Boys" If I can be of any help give me a call.

[hspeakman]

I will be getting a letter going tomorrow to my representative about the NHIE exam. I will also contact consumer affairs to file a complaint. I will send you a courtesy copy Nick.

[hspeakman]

Originally Posted by hjohnson6

Nick, What is up with this?
I have not taken my national exam as of yet. Should I be studying up on those topics? I guess the answer may depend on if I want to pass or not.

Harry you must be in a state that does not require a test yet. In Tennessee we are unable to get a License until the exam is passed. A Class "C" lawsuit should be in order. Someone is getting kick-backs on this NHIE fee. A total investigation should be conducted. You can spend lot's of money before you even get your license by not passing the NHIE. Take advantage of the courses offered by InterNACHI. My funding is running out.

[Harry F. Johnson, II]

Gentlemen, thank you for the information. I think I will wait until I hear more

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gromicko

The NHIE is free to be goofy. We are filing a lawsuit against licensing board members who used their positions of power to harm individual Americans by voting to require them to pass such a goofy exam to keep their livelihood. The Cohen boys smell class action.

Excellent news. Excellent news.

Please keep us all up to date on the status of this.

[Joe Farsetta]

I've heard this all before.

NACHI had the opportunity years back to truly offer a proctored setting. gerry had it ready. I also suggested more then rhetoric regarding a pedigreeddetermination as to whether the NHIE was really psychometrically valid. Nothing. I encouraged NACHI to have our exam validated as psychometrically valid. Deaf ears.

So, we are where we are. This testing requirement is written into law in mant licensed states. I predict there will be no suit, and no change to existing policy relative to the exam.

We had a roadmap to put ourselves on an even footing with the NHIE. This would have provided the mode to invalidate that exam, while promoting ours.

We're trying to close the barn doors after the horses have left.

[Nick Gromicko]

InterNACHI's entrance exam is psychometrically valid and there exists no one on the planet earth that can show it isn't.... and really no one competent enough in exam development to assess it on a professional level third party (hell, they can't even grade it)... it is that far ahead of all other exams. It is years ahead in scoring. And anyone suggesting that there is some mysterious government agency out there that can make a "predetermination" as to whether an exam is valid or not, knows nothing of exam development.

As for whether or not the NHIE is psychometrically valid or not, I'll leave that alone for a moment while I refer you to the document in post #1 of this thread showing a section of the exam asking questions about lawn sprinklers. Nuff said.

As for proctoring, InterNACHI's entrance exam is used by many home inspection schools and Community Colleges and is the most proctored exam in the home inspection industry. It has also been administered online a couple hundred thousand times worldwide.

Comparing the goofy NHIE with its questions about lawn sprinklers, swimming pools, spas and toasters with the world's largest inspection association's superior exam is silly. No comparison.

www.nachi.org/aboutexam.htm

[Joe Farsetta]

InterNACHI's entrance exam is psychometrically valid and there exists no one on the planet earth that can show it isn't....

We need to show it IS...

and really no one competent enough in exam development to assess it on a professional level...

What is this based on?

As for whether or not the NHIE is psychometrically valid or not, I'll leave that alone for a moment while I refer you to the document in post #1 of this thread showing a section of the exam asking questions about lawn sprinklers. Nuff said.

So, are we saying that a question regarding lawn sprinklers somehow makes the exam not psychometrically valid?

As for proctoring, InterNACHI's entrance exam is used by many home inspection schools and Community Colleges and is the most proctored exam in the home inspection industry.

I'll highlight this part:

is the most proctored exam in the home inspection industry.

My point is that we cant PROVE any of what is claimed. This has hamstrung us for years now. For some reason, we protest and nothing gets altered. NACHI's exam is still viewed as inferior, because we insist on ignoring a call, and duty to the members, to do what should have been done long ago.

We never did, and I suspect never will. As a result of that, we are now in sabre rattling mode, threatening class action lawsuits that will likely never happen. We are mature enough as an org to have professionally dealt with this several years ago.

Call it silly all you want. The NHIE is still recognized by most states for licensing, while ours isnt. Our suit must be based somehow on the premise that both exams are equal. Theirs was validated, while ours was not.

What will you say to the Judge when he asks why the worlds largest HI association refused to invest the time and money to have their exam validated by an outside expert?

[Nick Gromicko]

We have shown that it is Joe. Where were you?