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Old 5/1/08, 6:45 PM
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Default Has Kansas HB-2315 Passed

This PM we were told that the Senate's revision to HB-2315 was dropped and that it reverted to the original Bill put forth by the Kansas Realtors (KAR), the Realtor Chairman of the House Commerce Committee (Rep Brunk of Wichita), and the KAREI (Kansas ASHI Real Estate Inspectors).

That would be HB-2315. We were also told it has now passed the Senate.

Have not confirmed that - anybody know if this is true or not??
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Old 5/1/08, 8:04 PM
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Default Re: Has Kansas HB-2315 Passed

Dan,

Nothing has been posted on the State website yet. Last post was 4-4-08
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Old 5/1/08, 9:30 PM
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Who told?
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Old 5/2/08, 12:44 AM
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Appraiser said his wife (an agent heard it at a Realtors meeting) told him.

Trying to confirm or not.
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Old 5/2/08, 9:52 AM
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Thanks Dan. I have not heard anything about HB 2315 from anyone. It is very quiet. Got to go up north this morning, so I probably will not hear anything today from Topeka. I hope the bill will not go through. Does anyone know how much longer the legislature says in conference? Is today the last day?
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Old 5/2/08, 1:02 PM
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Default Re: Has Kansas HB-2315 Passed

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BILLS CURRENTLY IN CONFERENCE COMMITTEE DATE 05/02/2008
TIME 11:55:15
S0081 S0169 S0189 S0196 S0273 S0329 S0365 S0435 S0444 S0453
S0476 S0510 S0531 S0580 S0586 H2014 H2019 H2066 H2093 H2119
H2127 H2129 H2133 H2210 H2217 H2307 H2315 H2332 H2359 H2412
H2421 H2422 H2434 H2440 H2483 H2504 H2519 H2529 H2531 H2541
H2542 H2617 H2620 H2625 H2641 H2683 H2707 H2734 H2746 H2750
H2772 H2780 H2827 H2845 H2860 H2919 H2936 H2946 H2947
Hasn't moved out of committee yet. Doesn't appear to be on the schedule for discussion today either.



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Old 5/3/08, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Has Kansas HB-2315 Passed

Realtors are already announcing to their members it passed. Look at the Reece and Nichols memo sent to their leadership team on 5/2/08.

We need to rename the Bill.

Not the "Home Inspectors Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2008",

But Call it more accurately

"The Realtors & Trial Attorneys Shift the Liability Act of 2008"
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Old 5/4/08, 12:56 PM
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What in the heck happened in Topeka on Saturday? Does anyone know for sure? What home inspection bill passed? Who railroaded this thing through? I have heard already this morning that all of the realtors in Kansas are celebrating. They can now, I assume, sue us at will.
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Old 5/4/08, 4:22 PM
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You got it. Its flown the coop. Supposed to be at Governors office by monday.
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Old 5/4/08, 6:59 PM
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Here is what I found. Not much has changed. Realtors will be able to perform their own inspections, and not have to abide by any provision of the law. I would like to hear from more inspectors about this. This is the biggest conflict of interest of any other state home inspection regulation that I have heard of. I feel that I will be out of business, and pushed out by the realtors, brokers, engineers, etc.

http://www.kslegislature.org/supplem...008/SN2315.pdf
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Old 5/4/08, 7:05 PM
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I also am confused about the line on the Kansas HB supplement that says a home inspector will be prohibitied from "performing home inspections where the result is determined in advance". What the heck is that?????
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I also am confused about the line on the Kansas HB supplement that says a home inspector will be prohibitied from "performing home inspections where the result is determined in advance". What the heck is that?????
Remember, this bill was written for and sponsored by real estate salesmen.

They have created the grounds, and now the means of presenting the argument, that when you kill a deal...it was preplanned in order to enable the buyer to walk.



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Old 5/5/08, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Has Kansas HB-2315 Passed

You're not looking at the latest up to date goodies. See the attached memo from the Reece & NIchols Corporate office to their staff
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Old 5/5/08, 12:52 AM
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Heres the Senate / House Compromise goodies.

Take a REAL good look at the requirements to get registered. There's the rules for city guys AND then the different requirements for rural guys.

I read that and thought you gotta be ****ting me - what dimwit came up with that BS.
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Old 5/5/08, 8:22 AM
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Default Re: Has Kansas HB-2315 Passed

Bet the farm or something else. They'll have 5 Board members with 3 being home inspectors. Per the new law once it kicks in, the only rule on the other 2 is that they can't be home inspectors - who do you think (what group) intends to take 1 or more of those 2 positions???

Next thought - what does it take to be on the BOD (remember the law was written by the realestators and ashi)?? 5 years and 1,000 inspections.

Each district in the state will have 1 member on the BOD. In rural Kansas how many inspectors have been in business over 5 years and 1,000 jobs??

The ashi and realtor crowd have set this up to eliminate almost any other group other than themselves.
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