Help me understand - Licensing is bad?

[Michael Larson]

Dan or should we call you Rick?

Do you know any other songs? I'm getting tired of that one.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Dan or should we call you Rick?

Do you know any other songs? I'm getting tired of that one.

What more do you want
I added the line ... nacho inspectors are "certified" and can be Certified Master Inspectors by a real estate salesman, a member of the same group of people that busshy is trying to discredit and claims they do not have any business in our licensing decisions.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by dharris

What more do you want

How about honesty Dan.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by mlarson

How about honesty Dan.

OK.. Tell me what I've posted that isn't true...

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by dharris

OK.. Tell me what I've posted that isn't true...

Careful, Mike loves to argue

[dharris]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Careful, Mike loves to argue

I noticed that, it must be something in that special nacho flavored kool aid
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[Richard L. Bennett]

Dan


Real simple --- 1000 points on the honor system gets you the CMI


Some of the best tests of the profession on the honor system get you membership in NACHI

Are you saying that inspectors are dis honest??


I think you should take the anti honesty idea to the rest room

rlb

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by dharris

OK.. Tell me what I've posted that isn't true...

Since you asked.

http://www.nachi.org/forum/showpost....&postcount=244

[Rick Maday]

Wow! Shill, rat, straw man....
Guess we'll never hear from him...
Profile thin....
I'm just a guy just trying to get a question answered.
If you were bright enough to look up my "thin" profile, perhaps you should have gone the extra step of looking at my "few" posts.
I am coming into the business.... see my post "What to put in the bag"
As I've said the whole time, I am just trying to educate myself as to the argument against licensing.
Thanks to those who have given intelligent replys. I can see how a license may give the public a false sense of security....as my reference to my cousin with his IT experience spells out. I don't know if no standards are better than min. standards, but so be it.
Seems to me that the basic argument here is more NACHI vs ASHI than anything. Ironically enough I was at an ITA open house last week and overheard (and did not participate in) a discussion of ASHI vs NACHI from an ITA instructor and an (apparent) member of NACHI. What was interesting was that the ITA instructor was bashing NACHI while the other was bashing ASHI. It was quite entertaining, actually, and while the school that ITA has seems to be a quality facility, the passion against ANY particular organization by an instructor made me shall we say "uneasy".
I also feel the passion against licensing here and also find it funny that some of you will reject someone with a different view just because of that view.

My original question was Are you against Licensing in General? or Are you against "BAD" licensing laws? and What makes up "BAD" licensing laws?
I think I have my answer.
I'm sorry I ever asked.

[Rick Maday]

Originally Posted by mlarson

I suspected but didn't mention it. I will no longer participate in this thread until Rick discloses who he is and his business information. I don't expect he will.

Rick's profile is a bit thin.

Mike,
If I add a web site (under construction) and a catchy quote will my Profile be "Fatter" Seems thats the difference between your and mine.

[Rick Maday]

Originally Posted by mlarson

Is it right for the government to mandate E&O?

Is it right for the state to mandate business practice?

Why do only certain HI associations to promote licensing?

What benifit to the HI or consumer is gained by state regulation as opposed to HI membership in an HI organization?

1) No - that is a business decision
2) Vague question - SOP for ALL to follow, yes. Insurance provisions or what school you attend, no.
3) Unknown
4) SOP and Ethics policies are consistant for all HIs in the state. Also consumer has a place to lodge a complaint that can be heard and penalties imposed for someone not doing their job.

[Michael Larson]

Originally Posted by Rick Maday

Mike,
If I add a web site (under construction) and a catchy quote will my Profile be "Fatter" Seems thats the difference between your and mine.

Rick,

You should understand after your ITA experience that contention between the various orgs is rampant. That's not surprising really.
If you are serious about entering this business should should absolutely join NACHI as it is one of the best investments you could make in your venture. You will find a wealth of resources here and people willing and able to help. The benefits far exceed the cost in eduction opportunities alone.

To answer your question wit regard to licensing it's simple. I view government regulation as unnecessary as I am a believer in free markets and consider regulation an intrusion especially when it's supported by some of the other orgs as an attempt to control their market share. It's that simple for me. If you feel differently you are certainly entitled to your opinion but you won't get a free ride or go unchallenged here.
Good luck with you new business.

[Rick Maday]

Mike,
It is the passion (venom) with which the groups attack that surprises me.
I'm not looking for a free ride nor to go unchallenged - I actually LOVE a good debate - or so I've been told!
I have found the Message Board and the other info here very usefull.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by Rick Maday

Mike,
It is the passion (venom) with which the groups attack that surprises me.

Observe the deceitfulness and clandestine manner in which the proponents have snuck (and continue to try to sneak) legislated marketing plans into law. It will become more clear why they are fought with fire.

[Michael Larson]

Rick,

There are two philosophies in play on the licensing issue.
It's similar to the rancor between conservatives and liberals.
Lot's of passion but few changed minds because so many are invested in their opinion on any given issue.

Again, join NACHI you will not be disappointed.