Here Comes The Kansas Bill

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

In Kansas they're re-introduced HB-2315 from last year. Same everything - except we've seen memo's from KAR where the Realtors have re-written language.

So it seems they may not putting out the real deal.

They've set up hearings for 2/6 & 2/7 at 9:15 AM in Topeka. They've not set up 2 days worth before. Must be planning for a fight OR plan on Realtors bussing in tons of folks to tell their horror stories about BAD home boys.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

If we can give you a hand in anyway just let us know.

[Nick Gromicko]

I am pleased that our association is mentioned in the bill http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2008/2315.pdf

I'm also thrilled that the State of Kansas has reaffirmed the wisdom of the Master Inspector Certification Board (CMI)'s 1,000 inspection requirement by requiring the very same thing of their own licensing board members (page 3, line 42 & 43 of the Bill). www.certifiedmasterinspector.org

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

YES - Everybody is mentioned. In fact the Realtors last year actually had language in there that insisted that the HI Board have 1 member from each major home inspection group: NACHI, ASHI & NAHI.

BUT - we're told a certain ASHI member in the group the KAR was secretly working with to draft the Bill talked them into changing the language in the Bill to just saying 3 home inspectors. Imagine the Realtors being more fair to other inspectors than this group of guys (or maybe just 1 guy). I think the guy bragged to the legislators, realtors or other inspectors that would listen about how his dog got certified by NACHI.

I always wondered, EVEN if his dog did manage to get certified by NACHI - who filled out the application; signed it; wrote the check; and took the test on the computer for the dog. Sounds like either 99 yards of BS or a MUCH less than honorable type inspector.

I think the HI group pushing the Bill with the Realtors are hoping their realtor buddies can use their political influence to land the Board spots for their guys.

[Nick Gromicko]

Actually, the ASHI ahole legitimately joined InterNACHI, then requested that we change his first name to his nickname, which of course we learned later was his dog's name. We've since struck a deal with a national law firm licensed in all 50 states. The firm gets 100% of everything they collect when they file libel/slander suits on our behalf such as www.nachi.org/pascum.htm Publicly disparage InterNACHI... lose your home.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by dbowers

In Kansas they're re-introduced HB-2315 from last year. Same everything - except we've seen memo's from KAR where the Realtors have re-written language.

So it seems they may not putting out the real deal.

They've set up hearings for 2/6 & 2/7 at 9:15 AM in Topeka. They've not set up 2 days worth before. Must be planning for a fight OR plan on Realtors bussing in tons of folks to tell their horror stories about BAD home boys.

I think all of my neighbors should be licensed; MO also. It is easier with Vaseline

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by dbowers

YES - Everybody is mentioned. In fact the Realtors last year actually had language in there that insisted that the HI Board have 1 member from each major home inspection group: NACHI, ASHI & NAHI.

BUT - we're told a certain ASHI member in the group the KAR was secretly working with to draft the Bill talked them into changing the language in the Bill to just saying 3 home inspectors. Imagine the Realtors being more fair to other inspectors than this group of guys (or maybe just 1 guy). I think the guy bragged to the legislators, realtors or other inspectors that would listen about how his dog got certified by NACHI.

I always wondered, EVEN if his dog did manage to get certified by NACHI - who filled out the application; signed it; wrote the check; and took the test on the computer for the dog. Sounds like either 99 yards of BS or a MUCH less than honorable type inspector.

I think the HI group pushing the Bill with the Realtors are hoping their realtor buddies can use their political influence to land the Board spots for their guys.

Time to implement Plan A, Dan.

Good luck.

[John Cahill]

Interesting bill. Has a few conflicts. Key points.

1 - You can pick your SoP
2 - liability limited to 12 months (very short)
3 - liability limited to $1,000 (insurance providers should be leaping for joy)

Weakness. A bundled service company (lawn, pest, pool, handyman) can do FREE inspections without being licensed and use home inspection to sell product.

Defintion of defect includes value. That is a dangerous term and needs to be tempered by an SoP.

I do like number 1, 2 and 3 above however.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by jcahill

Interesting bill. Has a few conflicts. Key points.

1 - You can pick your SoP
2 - liability limited to 12 months (very short)
3 - liability limited to $1,000 (insurance providers should be leaping for joy)

Weakness. A bundled service company (lawn, pest, pool, handyman) can do FREE inspections without being licensed and use home inspection to sell product.

Defintion of defect includes value. That is a dangerous term and needs to be tempered by an SoP.

I do like number 1, 2 and 3 above however.

LOL.....

Attractive bills entice support from the opposition so as to become law....then future modifications can be made to appease the trial attorneys wanting no dollar limits, no time limits, and mandatory E&O.

They probably learned that from watching how successful it played in Texas.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Actually last year the Realtors at the next-to-the last minute raised the $1,000 to $15,000 - then at the last minute the Trial Attorneys stepped and AND tried to raise the Limits to "The Skys The Limit AND something like 3-4 Years on time. That helped the committee to drop the Bill on the floor.

We've been told by reliable inside sources that this year the KAR or their lobbying forces are asking the other players to sit on the sidelines: "Don't mess it up this year - Hold back - Lets us get them in the corral first".

Oh Boy, get out the KY-jelly.

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by dbowers

Actually last year the Realtors at the next-to-the last minute raised the $1,000 to $15,000 - then at the last minute the Trial Attorneys stepped and AND tried to raise the Limits to "The Skys The Limit AND something like 3-4 Years on time. That helped the committee to drop the Bill on the floor.

We've been told by reliable inside sources that this year the KAR or their lobbying forces are asking the other players to sit on the sidelines: "Don't mess it up this year - Hold back - Lets us get them in the corral first".

Oh Boy, get out the KY-jelly.

I noticed you on the Okla roster as being licensed in this State appears as if you may have two in your pocket when all is said and done. I have been through this twice once in 1975 with the licensing of HVAC and 2002 with HI. All of the ranting and yelling will not stop this from happening once the politicians are convinced it is the right thing to do. Before its over all 50 states will require licensing.

My only regret about licensing was I did not get involved in the SOP process I waited to long to apply for a board position the ASHI strong hold in OKC had already line up about 4 deep. My suggestion would be to get your hat in the board ring as early as possible if you can not stop it at least control some of the input. KY Jelly is better than dry.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Sorry Charley, thats the opposite end of the state

[Charley L. Bottger]

Originally Posted by dbowers

Sorry Charley, thats the opposite end of the state

Don't matter no further than Ponca City to OKC Would of gladly driven If I could of got on the board. Water under the bridge now

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

We were told today that the Realtors are bussing in agents from around the state (especially agents in the committees voting district) to tell HI horror stories - thats why they've got it set up for 2 days. They're trying to stack the decks.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by dbowers

We were told today that the Realtors are bussing in agents from around the state (especially agents in the committees voting district) to tell HI horror stories - thats why they've got it set up for 2 days. They're trying to stack the decks.

Use this as proof....to demonstrate your point....that their attempt to dominate home inspectors is an effort to legislate themselves into bigger sales and fewer "blown deals".

You have the results of a scientifically conducted survey of HIs from two years ago that should play well in response to their KAR orchestrated and rehearsed presentations.