Illinois radon Bills.

[nwagner]

Originally Posted by jbushart

You are as entitled to your opinion as to the value of your "coalition" as anyone else, but yours is no more valid than anyone else's.

They are shams in Florida, Missouri and New Hampshire.

They don't sound like a sham and there is already an Illinios licensing system in place. However, I hear that the coalition is primarily ASHI and has an ASHI guy for a president. Please Mr. Decker, insure that this doesn't become another one of these sham coalitions that Bushart is speaking of.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jbushart

You are as entitled to your opinion as to the value of your "coalition" as anyone else, but yours is no more valid than anyone else's.

They are shams in Florida, Missouri and New Hampshire.

I agree, Jim.

But, I would add, it is not fair or honest to paint everyone with the same brush. I don't know about Florida, Missouri or New Hampshire. I do know about Illinois.

I was just replying to your implied assertion that the IHIA is an ASHI front. I am involved with it and I can assure you that, at least in Illinois, this is not the case.

Whether you choose to believe me or not is up to you.

But, I would point out that the proof is in the doing and this bill helps all Illinois HIs, not just the ones in ASHI.

[Kenneth E. Sitzes]

Will

I and other would like to see the proof that this Illinois Home Inspector Association is not a ASHI back group. Also who are you all to make any decision for the home inspector in Illinois no one ask me or other want we think about want the associations is lobbing in state legislatures for. Who are the member an want Assoc. due they belong to?

[James H. Bushart]

Will,

Isn't your "coalition" led by an ASHI chapter president?

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by ksitzes

Will

I and other would like to see the proof that this Illinois Home Inspector Association is not a ASHI back group. Also who are you all to make any decision for the home inspector in Illinois no one ask me or other want we think about want the associations is lobbing in state legislatures for. Who are the member an want Assoc. due they belong to?

Ken;

1) What kind of proof do you want? I attend the meetings and talk to the guys. If you don't believe me, what will you believe?

2) We "are you all" members of the Illinois Home Inspector Association, an incorporated, Illinois corporation, that has an open membership to all Illinois licensed home inspectors. Under Illinois law, the membership is 'you all'. Here is the link to our web page: http://www.illinoishia.com/. All the information is there. In fact, our executive director called you (If I am not mistaken, a couple to times) and you didn't want to talk to him. In fact (as I heard it) you (and another) tried to file a complaint against him (which came to nothing). If you had just asked, the information is freely available. No big thing.

3) We are members of the Illinois Home Inspector Association (just like the web site states). Or members set the agenda, through the directors.

4) Ken, you really need to use the spell and grammar checker more.

Hope this helps.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jbushart

Will,

Isn't your "coalition" led by an ASHI chapter president?

Our 'coalition" (really, an Illinois not-for-profit corporation) is led by the executive director, Mr. John Dunn, and the board of directors. That will change after our annual (as required by law and the corportion by-laws) meeting. Check out the web site. It is all expained there, so I won't explain it here.

Mr. Dunn, the executive directors, is a former ASHI member, but is not now. I am a currecnt NACHI Chapter President. Another director is a former NAHI Chapter president. We have directors who are members of all the national associations, but we work together, regardless of that.

Jim, let's be frank.

If you don't want to believe that this group is un-biased, then no amount of my posting (because you won't talk to me) will convince you.

Counter-challange. You have made an assertion. Therefore, it is up to you to prove it.

clear?

[James H. Bushart]

A "former" ASHI president. My mistake.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jbushart

A "former" ASHI president. My mistake.

Former ASHI chapter president (Springfield, IL). I know you will appreciate the clarity.

[Kenneth E. Sitzes]

Will,
Once again you thing you know it all.
The executive director called me one time.
I have no ideal about this (file a complaint against him).
Want proof due you have that it not a ASHI ran assoc.

[jwortham1]

Once again you thing you know it all.
The executive director called me one time.
I have no ideal about this (file a complaint against him).
Want proof due you have that it not a ASHI ran assoc.

I didn't join. I don't join lobbying groups when I don't know the agenda.

But I have to ask, who are you to demand proof of anything?

If you joined their association and asked this, I'd say you were fully within your rights. But I'd say a chapter president from NAHI, another from NACHI and another from ASHI along with several independents would pretty much prove it's unaffilliated.

If you want to be influence their agenda, join. Or maybe, just ask them what their objectives are. I bet they'd answer you.

[Kenneth E. Sitzes]

They claim the work for all home inspector. I think as a Illinois home inspector I have the right to know.

[jwortham1]

So ask.

You demanded proof it wasn't an ASHI organization. You didn't ask what they are trying to accomplish.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by ksitzes

Will,
Once again you thing you know it all.

Do you mean "Once again, you think you know it all."

No. I do not know it all, I know what I know and strive to learn what I don't know.

The executive director called me one time.

My mistake. That is why I asked. I will take your word for it.

I have no ideal about this (file a complaint against him).

Do you mean "I have no idea about this (that someone filed a complaint against him).

Mr. Russ Myers, the former President of your Illinois state chapter, filed a complaint against Mr. Dunn. It came to naught. I will forward the e-mail to you if you want. No need to muddy up this board with his language. After re-reading the e-mail, I stand corrected as to your involvment.


Want proof due you have that it not a ASHI ran assoc.

Do you mean "I want any proof you have that this is not an ASHI run association."

What kind of proof would you like. I attend all the meetings (driving downstate to do so). Doesn't my word, as NACHI Member of the Year man anything? It's kind or hard to prove a negative.

If I recall, the person who dies from lung cancer, probably as a result from Radon) lived in your town. I assue that you wanted this law passed. The IHIA, working with others, did so. Was I wrong in my assumptions?

Ken; I would be happy to provide you with any information you would like. Just let me know. My phone number is below.

[William J. Decker]

Originally Posted by jwortham1

I didn't join. I don't join lobbying groups when I don't know the agenda.

But I have to ask, who are you to demand proof of anything?

If you joined their association and asked this, I'd say you were fully within your rights. But I'd say a chapter president from NAHI, another from NACHI and another from ASHI along with several independents would pretty much prove it's unaffilliated.

If you want to be influence their agenda, join. Or maybe, just ask them what their objectives are. I bet they'd answer you.

If Ken wants to join, I will pay his first year dues.

He can find out for himself.

All he has to do is attend the meetings.

Besides, most of them are downstate. Closer for him than for me .

[Kenneth E. Sitzes]

Once again you did not answer the question.