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Old 9/17/07, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: NACHI files response in US Court to Mallory's recent attacks for personal gain.

Rob N Hood

Why not call yourself "C. Oward", "F. Eckless", or "B. Igdick" ?

Its all the same
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Old 9/18/07, 1:09 AM
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Default Re: NACHI files response in US Court to Mallory's recent attacks for personal gain.

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What do you think you can gain by engaging in behavior that makes you look like a foolish brat at best and a brutish thug at the worst?
Fair enough question. I've already gained much of what I wanted. For instance, with regard to the Minneapolis association permitting its members to sell repair services to correct defects they find on their inspections, an unethical move that destroys our profession's most precious virtue... impartiality, they finally gave in and recently changed their Code of Ethics to prohibit it (like NACHI and ASHI prohibit it). The change they made was word for word, exactly as I insisted.

Complain about my methods all you want... proof is in the pudding.

Anyway, I will continue to be a "brutish thug" as you say until they also end their preferred vendor schemes (like NACHI and ASHI have done) which bribe REALTORs into recommending inspectors, not based solely on merit as their fiduciary duty demands, but rather the inspectors that pay them the most. Unconscionable and harmful to consumers and my industry. I can show that consumers have not only been financially harmed by this steering scheme, but physically harmed as well, and in at least one instance... it killed a child. How many other deaths has "purchased praise" caused? The Minneapolis association's preferred vendor schemes which permit unqualified inspectors to acquire undue praise from REALTORs who are supposed to be recommending only the best inspectors based solely on merit, is nothing short of statistical mass murder of my fellow Americans for profit.

No ethics, no peace!

P.S. Thank you for your comment:
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I had considered joining your organization because it has many good benefits to home inspectors,
But please don't join us for just your personal gain. Instead join us because we are fighting the good fight. While you waste time snooping around on some other association's message board and complaining about trivial stuff, like someone else's behavior... real work, work that needs to be done to protect consumers and help our profession, continues to pile up. Get out of the cart and help us push. If you do your best to do good, God will take care of most everything else for you.



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Old 9/18/07, 10:24 AM
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Nick,

Just curious, were you dropped on your head as a baby?

Maybe, but that has nothing to do with this issue. Ad hominium arguments are silly.

What else would explain why would the chief executive of a national association continue to engage in a childish vendetta against an organization that is inferior to his at least in his own mind?

Again, you are mischaracterizing the issue. NACHI and the other assocation were involved in litigation. There was a settlement. Then the other association reniged on the settlement and started new, agressive, legal work. Notice: NACHI is the denendent in this case. If there is any "vendetta" or "childishness" is is the other side that is engaging in it.

And the "... at least in his own mind." crack is, in itself, childish and displays your bias.

What do you think you can gain by engaging in behavior that makes you look like a foolish brat at best and a brutish thug at the worst?

This "behavior" is an answer to a legal brief. How is one defending themselves, in a court of law, akin to being a "spoiled brat" or a "brutish thug"? Please explain.

I had considered joining your organization because it has many good benefits to home inspectors, but your unprofessional behavior has made me wonder... just what kind of organization is NACHI?

Damning by false praise is also just plain silly. If NACHI is a better association (professionally, benefits, education, etc) than someother, you would be foolish not to join. Also, how is responding to legal agression "unprofessional behavior".
Sir, it is clear from your illogic and from your assertion of ad hominim arguments that you are nothing more than a shil for the other association. If you wodul have just taken the time to examine the facts of the matter, you would not have written what you did.

Professionalism demands nothing less.

Hope this helps;



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Old 9/25/07, 2:00 PM
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Will,

It's good to see that there are other out there who can effectively break down an illogical argument into it's proper components. I thought I was the only one left outside of academia who still uses "ad hominem" in its proper context. Very fine logical deconstruction.
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Old 9/26/07, 10:24 AM
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Will,

It's good to see that there are other out there who can effectively break down an illogical argument into it's proper components. I thought I was the only one left outside of academia who still uses "ad hominem" in its proper context. Very fine logical deconstruction.
I prefer to cut through the obvious BS and do not suffer fools lightly.

Once you learn effective (and pretty simple) debate techniques, you find out that most arguments, stripped of their illogic and fluff, are mostly broken down to "I don't like you because you don't agree with my feelings".

Hops this helps;



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Old 9/26/07, 10:48 AM
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I prefer to cut through the obvious BS and do not suffer fools lightly.

Once you learn effective (and pretty simple) debate techniques, you find out that most arguments, stripped of their illogic and fluff, are mostly broken down to "I don't like you because you don't agree with my feelings".

Hops this helps;
Will ,you done Good, you done real goods till you. (" Hopes this helps ")

Yes I am being factious with my Gooder English .......... Cookie

All said in jest I am sure Will can see that



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Old 9/26/07, 10:54 AM
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Will ,you done Good, you done real goods till you. (" Hopes this helps ")

Yes I am being factious with my Gooder English .......... Cookie

All said in jest I am sure Will can see that
My Dear Mr. Cooke.

I don no how to reed and rite good. Sorry



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