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Old 11/29/09, 10:28 AM
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Old 11/29/09, 12:06 PM
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I'm proud to have InterNACHI on public record for standing against corruption and standing with its members who are forced to deal with it in their home states.

I'm ashamed that there are other national organizations that are remaining silent and assisting those who are harming our profession with their silence.

Thanks, Nick, for standing up for what is right....and standing against what is wrong. I know that your position on these issues may encourage those who have corrupted the registration board to reject NACHI educational and testing products in retaliation ... but I am equally assured that you will respond to such foolishness with swift and decisive blows.

Thanks for the support, Nick.



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Old 11/29/09, 1:41 PM
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Default Re: InterNACHI in Kansas City Star article on home inspection licensing board corrupt

I was impressed with one of the responses to the article.

The lady that discussed how 1 month after the home inspectors pronounced a home safet to occupy - the basement wall collapsed.

In 32 years of inspecting I've NEVER heard of OR seen anything like that (oh and I grew up in an excavation construction family that built basements, highways, etc). We need more details from her to verify this is NOT plain old BS.
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Old 11/29/09, 1:43 PM
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Who declares any home "safe" to occupy?



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Old 11/29/09, 2:29 PM
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In Belleville you must get a occupancy permit. A city code inspector comes out and makes sure nothing is unsafe.

Residents moving into Belleville are advised that a “Certificate of Occupancy” is required to be obtained before the residence can legally be occupied. An inspection of the dwelling unit is conducted by the City to ensure that there are no substantial defects and violations to the “housing code and ordinance” that must be corrected before occupancy is permitted. Critical areas of inspection include the electrical and plumbing systems, exterior and interior structural elements, and other areas that are readily visible.



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Old 11/29/09, 3:08 PM
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Do you issue COs billy?



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Old 11/29/09, 3:11 PM
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Billy ... can you sue the city if the basement wall falls in after your Bellville inspector declares that "nothing is unsafe"?



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Old 11/29/09, 3:20 PM
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Billy brings up another valid point. Not to long ago, I was on a national consumer groups web site. They had a complaint section for builders, contractors and home inspectors. When I looked at the HI's complaint section I discovered MOST inspector complaints were against CODE guys.

BUT they were so NAIVE they had logged the as Home Inspector complaints.
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Old 11/29/09, 3:52 PM
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Do you issue COs billy?
Nope. I don't inspect in IL.



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Old 11/29/09, 3:53 PM
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Billy ... can you sue the city if the basement wall falls in after your Bellville inspector declares that "nothing is unsafe"?
No idea Jim. I'm sure the city has something good in writing somewhere never investigated city code inspectors. I don't inspect in IL as you know. However, in their literature it states they inspect the structure so I'm sure someone may have grounds.



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Old 11/29/09, 4:18 PM
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No idea Jim.
The correct answer is "no".



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Old 11/29/09, 4:29 PM
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The correct answer is "no".
Like I said never been around one in Belleville and never seen what they inspect. So enlighten us as to why they have no responsibility when inspecting for a CO permit? Why are we held responsible and they are not?



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Like I said never been around one in Belleville and never seen what they inspect. So enlighten us as to why they have no responsibility when inspecting for a CO permit? Why are we held responsible and they are not?
Bill

I believe most states have laws stating you cannot sue a City Building Inspector for negligence, I know Arizona has such a statue, as crazy as it may be.

They basically have a free get out of jail card, which I think is ridiculous.

If they choose handing out Certificates of Occupancy as their profession and the house burns down a day later because of wiring installed incorrectly, I believe they should be personally held liable...but their not.
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Old 11/29/09, 4:48 PM
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I believe most states have laws stating you cannot sue a City Building Inspector for negligence, I know Arizona has such a statue, as crazy as it may be.

They basically have a free get out of jail card, which I think is ridiculous.

If they choose handing out Certificates of Occupancy as their profession and the house burns down a day later because of wiring installed incorrectly, I believe they should be personally held liable...but their not.
Unbelievable. Wow. Your a licensed state what is your liability cap in Arizonia?



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Old 11/29/09, 5:32 PM
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I don't have any liability cap, but I have E&O...I doubt anybody does anywhere in the country if they find the right attorney to sue regardless of what statutes may be law.
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