NACHI sues PHIC, NAHI Chapter and individual NAHI members personally.

[Randy D. Stufflebeem]

AMEN! Nick

Randy

[John B. Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

John Allen,

I don't presume to know you at all, but I'm getting the feeling that you like NACHIism (open source discussion of all things inspection, be they of a technical issue, legislative issue, ethical issue, etc, without fear of censorship, with the ultimate goal of improving the industry by inspectors helping inspectors).

NACHIism (a world-wide movement that extends from here in Colorado all the way to mainland China) is what that do-nothing, for-profit association is really attacking, and it is what causes so much anger to be misdirected at us.

to be honest I have been watching this organization since day 1 when i received a call many years back to join. My problem is I hate bashing others and thier organizations and when i read many times you doing so to other organizations, I was turned off. Of course PHIC had a hand in convincing that this was not legit in My state.I also held a high position in my local chapter here in my state and was rather one sided at the time due to the meetings and talks with members and phic. I later met a few guys who i did well tests and septic tests for and we seemed to get along fine. I later watched them inspect houses while i was doing my tests. i saw some things missed and of course attemptef to help them out when the clients left so they did not look bad. i then realized they were guys in a position i may have been in 12 years ago. still learning and trying to do my best, ( of course it helped that i built houses and plumbed them, and did rough wiring).
i have had my thoughts about joining here and trying to help out some guys in my area. but each time i do someone sends something claiming i would not be leagal any longer. i would hate to lose my CRI status i worked very hard to attain.
I need to do some heavy thinking here before my dues are up for Nahi.

Ps I do apologize for being an anti nachi person many years back. I never bashed nachi or its members, but beleived what I was told until I saw otherwise. This is also not a joke it is sincere, i am sure you get your share of idiots here who do make fun.
Now get rid of bushart and all will be happy................

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by John B. Allen

to be honest I have been watching this organization since day 1 when i received a call many years back to join. My problem is I hate bashing others and thier organizations and when i read many times you doing so to other organizations, I was turned off. Of course PHIC had a hand in convincing that this was not legit in My state.I also held a high position in my local chapter here in my state and was rather one sided at the time due to the meetings and talks with members and phic. I later met a few guys who i did well tests and septic tests for and we seemed to get along fine. I later watched them inspect houses while i was doing my tests. i saw some things missed and of course attemptef to help them out when the clients left so they did not look bad. i then realized they were guys in a position i may have been in 12 years ago. still learning and trying to do my best, ( of course it helped that i built houses and plumbed them, and did rough wiring).
i have had my thoughts about joining here and trying to help out some guys in my area. but each time i do someone sends something claiming i would not be leagal any longer. i would hate to lose my CRI status i worked very hard to attain.
I need to do some heavy thinking here before my dues are up for Nahi.

Ps I do apologize for being an anti nachi person many years back. I never bashed nachi or its members, but beleived what I was told until I saw otherwise. This is also not a joke it is sincere, i am sure you get your share of idiots here who do make fun.
Now get rid of bushart and all will be happy................

You would be welcomed to the NACHI family, just as Bushart
is welcomed here also....

Hey, they even let me hang around... it can't be all bad.

[Nick Gromicko]

John B. Allen nicely summed up our member's problems (caused by the warmonger association in PA)

to be honest I have been watching this organization since day 1 when i received a call many years back to join. My problem is I hate bashing others and thier organizations and when i read many times you doing so to other organizations, I was turned off. Of course PHIC had a hand in convincing that this was not legit in My state.I also held a high position in my local chapter here in my state and was rather one sided at the time due to the meetings and talks with members and phic. I later met a few guys who i did well tests and septic tests for and we seemed to get along fine. I later watched them inspect houses while i was doing my tests. i saw some things missed and of course attemptef to help them out when the clients left so they did not look bad. i then realized they were guys in a position i may have been in 12 years ago. still learning and trying to do my best, ( of course it helped that i built houses and plumbed them, and did rough wiring).
i have had my thoughts about joining here and trying to help out some guys in my area. but each time i do someone sends something claiming i would not be leagal any longer. i would hate to lose my CRI status i worked very hard to attain.
I need to do some heavy thinking here before my dues are up for Nahi.

Ps I do apologize for being an anti nachi person many years back. I never bashed nachi or its members, but beleived what I was told until I saw otherwise. This is also not a joke it is sincere, i am sure you get your share of idiots here who do make fun.
Now get rid of bushart and all will be happy................

John, you do agree with me that any association that permits its members to offer to sell repair services after tricking their clients into believing they purchased an impartial inspection, deserves bashing, no?

[John B. Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

John B. Allen nicely summed up our member's problems (caused by the warmonger association in PA)



John, you do agree with me that any association that permits its members to offer to sell repair services after tricking their clients into believing they purchased an impartial inspection, deserves bashing, no?

In my opinion anyone who repairs a house after inspecting it , does not belong in the bussiness and should be pushed out with any force neccesary.
now i know what you are getting at here, but remember in Pa the law states that we cannot repair houses for up to one year after inspecting it. But laws elsewhere may be different. i do agree with you on this, anyone who repairs a house or offers to do after inspecting it is a complete ( I hate the word) scumbag.
I am only glad as heck that nahi has changed its standards.

as for the members problems, I really do feel bad for the guys in Pa beacuse of the bad raps they are given, granted as with all organizations, some are unsure of what they do, but those who know and do a good job should be commended. therefore i do commend all in pa who strive to do their clients right,( not the agents, the clients).
Now remember this is from a past president of nahi pa chapter. That has to mean something if i am convinced of the good guys here. Maybe that would mean it is looking up?

the problem is this. Nick and I are too much alike and for that he scares me and pisses me off at the same time......
But i am only a 50 year old grouch from Pa.
So Nick what can we do to aid PA? get rid of Phic? So lets start a coalition of all inspectors in the state not just nahi and ashi.
Sorry my brain sometimes goes awry........

[John B. Allen]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

You would be welcomed to the NACHI family, just as Bushart
is welcomed here also....

Hey, they even let me hang around... it can't be all bad.

I am so sorry Bushie rubs me the wrong way sometimes.
but I may end up joining if this stuff continues , one reason would be to fight for our rights as bussiness owners and our legality in Pa as such.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Bushart may be a bastard sometimes, but he is really good guy. Just misunderstood. Believe it not he is usually right on most issues. That is a better average than what I have had.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by John B. Allen

I am so sorry Bushie rubs me the wrong way sometimes.
but I may end up joining if this stuff continues , one reason would be to fight for our rights as bussiness owners and our legality in Pa as such.

Hey skin a little thick helps .
I have given James a red when I feel he is wrong but I have given him more greens the reds.
I also tell him when I do.
He has lots of knowledge on many things and has the ability to get to the bottom most often.
I sure feel NACHI is a lot better of with him the with out him.
................ Cookie
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[mthomas2]

I'm looking at my renewal invoice, and I'm asking myself, do I *really* want to fund these lawsuits?

[Scott Gilligan, CMI]

I'm looking at my renewal invoice, and I'm asking myself, do I *really* want to fund these lawsuits?

I'm sure you would if it was going on where you lived and tried to make a living.

[Roy D. Cooke, Sr]

Originally Posted by mthomas2

I'm looking at my renewal invoice, and I'm asking myself, do I *really* want to fund these lawsuits?

I guess this is a choice only you can make .
Does it bother you to have some one try and destroy your association .
Do you think it would be better to ignore those who would hurt our industry.

........ Cookie

[Nick Gromicko]

John Allen: What city in PA do you live in?

P.S. Your quote

In my opinion anyone who repairs a house after inspecting it , does not belong in the bussiness and should be pushed out with any force neccesary.

coming from a former Chapter President of that association, was one of the nicest things anyone has ever said. Makes me feel like all my efforts are appreciated by someone. When I was a child, I never aimed to become a political activist. I don't even know how I ended up one.

[gporter]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

I think I just heard a truck pull up in front of NAHI. It's full of document shredders...

[gporter]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Bushart may be a bastard sometimes, but he is really good guy. Just misunderstood. Believe it not he is usually right on most issues. That is a better average than what I have had.

I love him

[gporter]

Bravo