Kansas to approve 5 pre-registration education providers.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Also contact the Attorney General's office and your legislatures and ask them why this new law is keeping you from making a living. All legislatures who do not correct this wrong and get compensation for the victims needs to be voted out at their next election. Campaigns supporting their appointments who are against this fraud should be organized.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by Mark Brandt

I recently received a rejection letter from KHIRB. Mr. Porter stated in his letter that I had not included proof of examination completiton and completion of 80 hours of training. I had in fact included a copy of my NHIE exam certificate, and a copy of my PHII basic (80 hours) and advanced (32 hours) certificates. The letter further states that I can resubmit after the board has approved the institution that I have attended. When will that be? I think it is wrong that the KHIRB be able to place such specific education requirements exposfacto. If they want that education structure from 1/1/2010 on that is acceptable. But to go back 2 1/2 years and place such criteria serves a purpose other then what's best for Kansas. Especially when there is no education criteria for those prior to July 2007. I am loosing income as we speak. Does this situation fit the criteria for a class action lawsuite? Or should I patiently wait for Mr. Barnes to do what's right? The PHII coarses are accepted in 15 other states, all insurance providers and professional affiliations. I thought I was being professional and prudent when I went the extra mile to get training and certification for a state that had no regs. Now I'm told everything that I have done isn't good enough.

Any NACHI member that is being victimized by this bill needs to email fastreply@nachi.org . Nick has promised in the pass if the bill hurts his members, he will take action against Barnes and his band of hoodlums.

[James H. Bushart]

So.....what was the outcome of the telephone conference? Did you get your courses, Nick?

[Gary Farnsworth]

Bump. It just keeps getting better. I have been in business over 8 years and just finished my all time worse month; January, 2010. Thanks for licensing.

[Nick Gromicko]

I recently received a rejection letter from KHIRB. Mr. Porter stated in his letter that I had not included proof of examination completiton and completion of 80 hours of training. I had in fact included a copy of my NHIE exam certificate, and a copy of my PHII basic (80 hours) and advanced (32 hours) certificates. The letter further states that I can resubmit after the board has approved the institution that I have attended. When will that be? I think it is wrong that the KHIRB be able to place such specific education requirements exposfacto. If they want that education structure from 1/1/2010 on that is acceptable. But to go back 2 1/2 years and place such criteria serves a purpose other then what's best for Kansas. Especially when there is no education criteria for those prior to July 2007. I am loosing income as we speak. Does this situation fit the criteria for a class action lawsuite? Or should I patiently wait for Mr. Barnes to do what's right? The PHII coarses are accepted in 15 other states, all insurance providers and professional affiliations. I thought I was being professional and prudent when I went the extra mile to get training and certification for a state that had no regs. Now I'm told everything that I have done isn't good enough.

Today we uncovered evidence that Barnes intentionally withheld this U.S. Department of Education report from fellow board members prior to a board discussion regarding approval of online pre-registration courses: http://www.nachi.org/online-beats-classroom.htm

A meeting today with the Board of Regents in Kansas revealed that it is NOT within the KHIRB's authority to reject online or distance education on the basis that they are not classroom courses... as the Board of Regents already recognizes and accepts online and distance education. In other words, Barnes has no authority to reject InterNACHI's online courses for pre-registration simply because they are online. Online delivery is not a course defect. He will need to find some other grounds to deny our application. If the board can't find some other basis to deny our application then we expect immediate approval, or we will file suit against the board members.

[Paul Sabados]

[quote=gromicko;614232]Today we uncovered evidence that Barnes intentionally withheld this U.S. Department of Education report from fellow board members prior to a board discussion regarding approval of online pre-registration courses:

[Paul Sabados]

Sorry about that, lost my post.

Anyhow, Do I think Barnes is corupt? Does a seive leak? Is a frog waterproof? Do dry birds fly in the rain? Yes, yes and no! Not only is he acting in a corupt manner, he is under qualified for the position he holds. He has no idea how to manage such a board let alone the skills to properly manage. He should have never been put into such a position, and furthermore should have not accepted a position like this. He has no idea as to what really needs to be done, otherwise we wouldn't have inspectors out there that can not work because of his ineptitude to make sure things were ready and in place prior to the deadline. That was a big failure on his part. Mr Micro-manager, its my way or the highway, Barnes. Barnes, you have put ligitmate inspectors out of work. I hope you sleep well at night, just remember, you reap what you sow.

No, you will not find my name on the qualified list. After 20 plus years of inspecting in this state I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO WORK UNDER A CONTROL BOARD THAT YOU ARE IN CHARGE OFF. I will not pay to play with this abomination of a LAW that you ramrodded thru with you real estate playmates. The board can waste time and money to try and figure out if I'm complying or not.

Yes the man has mislead many in the past and in the present, and will continue into the future as long as he remains. The best thing that could happen under is hand written law would be the inspector 001 receive lawsuit 001. I'm still betting that you'll be turned down, might as well get the paperwork started.

[Gary Farnsworth]

Paul, I am in total agreement with you. I only sent in my application just to see what would actually happen. I also contacted attorneys who are interested, and are connected, in any Kansas law and contract/real estate law litigation. I sent it in with their knowlege in what may happen. It is happening. I have sent headings of this thread to the AG and several senators and representitives. I hope Kansas is ready to spend millions on lawsuits and litigation due to this corrupt fiasco. Now, saying this, I wonder if I will loose my license for not being prudent. Mr. Barnes is walking thin ground. If these things get out, he himself will be out of business, and no longer on the board, and hurt his own reputation (if not already). I suggest that the governor of Kansas replace all of the board members, start over, or eleminate it altogether, as other states are due to lack of funding and threats of lawsuits. A Senate oversight committee should be appointed, if the AG decides to keep this board going.

[Patrick Carter]

Originally Posted by psabados

Sorry about that, lost my post.

Anyhow, Do I think Barnes is corupt? Does a seive leak? Is a frog waterproof? Do dry birds fly in the rain? Yes, yes and no! Not only is he acting in a corupt manner, he is under qualified for the position he holds. He has no idea how to manage such a board let alone the skills to properly manage. He should have never been put into such a position, and furthermore should have not accepted a position like this. He has no idea as to what really needs to be done, otherwise we wouldn't have inspectors out there that can not work because of his ineptitude to make sure things were ready and in place prior to the deadline. That was a big failure on his part. Mr Micro-manager, its my way or the highway, Barnes. Barnes, you have put ligitmate inspectors out of work. I hope you sleep well at night, just remember, you reap what you sow.

No, you will not find my name on the qualified list. After 20 plus years of inspecting in this state I ABSOLUTELY REFUSE TO WORK UNDER A CONTROL BOARD THAT YOU ARE IN CHARGE OFF. I will not pay to play with this abomination of a LAW that you ramrodded thru with you real estate playmates. The board can waste time and money to try and figure out if I'm complying or not.

Yes the man has mislead many in the past and in the present, and will continue into the future as long as he remains. The best thing that could happen under is hand written law would be the inspector 001 receive lawsuit 001. I'm still betting that you'll be turned down, might as well get the paperwork started.

Good Post Paul, I am with you on this....

[Paul Sabados]

Originally Posted by gromicko

The Board confirmed that we were the first to apply for approval. We trust Jeff will not permit any of his cronies to "jump ahead in line."

I've got it from a reliable source that the first application and check fee submitted for pre-licensing education came from a certain Leavenworth KS training hand delivered.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I take it since Nick has not posted anything yet about Friday's meeting, NACHI has not been accepted as an education provider. Does anybody know if any education providers have been selected for Kansas?

[measter]

Originally Posted by jbraun

I take it since Nick has not posted anything yet about Friday's meeting, NACHI has not been accepted as an education provider. Does anybody know if any education providers have been selected for Kansas?

You can find the answer right on the website. It's dated 1-30-10

http://khirb.files.wordpress.com/201...st-1-30-10.pdf

regards,
Mark

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Today we uncovered evidence that Barnes intentionally withheld this U.S. Department of Education report from fellow board members prior to a board discussion regarding approval of online pre-registration courses: http://www.nachi.org/online-beats-classroom.htm

A meeting today with the Board of Regents in Kansas revealed that it is NOT within the KHIRB's authority to reject online or distance education on the basis that they are not classroom courses... as the Board of Regents already recognizes and accepts online and distance education. In other words, Barnes has no authority to reject InterNACHI's online courses for pre-registration simply because they are online. Online delivery is not a course defect. He will need to find some other grounds to deny our application. If the board can't find some other basis to deny our application then we expect immediate approval, or we will file suit against the board members.

So Nick, what basis did Barnes give you for denial?

[Paul Sabados]

Originally Posted by psabados

I'm still betting that you'll be turned down, might as well get the paperwork started.

I'm not surprised, have you started the paperwork yet? The first suit should have been engaged. It could have been stopped then, now 15 months later another major insult slammed in our face. Nick you've been played just like the other members in this state. You've been throwing cottonballs at a stonewalling carpet bagger.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Sad but true.

Also file a suit to compensate loss of income for those newer inspectors waiting for the education classes to begin. They should had approved education providers many many months ago.