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Old 1/6/10, 4:24 AM
Dan Bowers, CMI Dan Bowers, CMI is offline
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Default Re: Kansas Taxpayers Carry the Costs for HI Registration Law

Guys this misleading gossip you're putting out has got to stop.

To start with I personally was in Senate legislative meetings where Senators Karen Brownlee and Senator Susan Waggle brought up the fact that they SAW no demonstrated need for this HI Bill, AND had seen NO sort of FISCAL reports on running another Board in Kansas. That nice Lobbyist (Luke Bell) explained about all the problems with UNREGULATED inspectors in Kansas MANY times.

I testified that I had talked to Board members of Home Inspection Boards in several other states and had been assured that they needed $80k or so to run and administer a SMALL Board at a minimum level.

Apparently I was wrong, because in Kansas as the Realestators Lobbyist (Luke Bell) and Jeff Barnes testified to the Senate / They had checked with several other small Boards in Kansas and we could easily run a small Board on somewhere between $20K to $40k per year and with 200-300 home inspectors that would provide $40,000 to $60,000 a year to RUN the new HI Board at NO COST to the taxpayers of our state.

Again, in estimating the number of home inspectors in Kansas - I was apparently very wrong because I testified that with the downturn in the economy I had counted NACHI, NAHI, ASHI Inspectors then thrown in a percentage for "Don't Belong To Nothing" inspectors AND figured we would have well less than 200 inspectors.

BUT again the Realestators Lobbyist and Mr Barnes had a better handle on this and indicated closer to 300 after the downturn.

I'm sure when its all worked out they'll be on the target. That Realestator Lobbyist was sharp. Heck I didn't even know that basically everyone but home inspectors involved in real estate in Kansas carried E&O insurance EXCEPT for home inspectors (the real estate agents, builders, lenders, appraisers, engineers, etc). He testified several times to the legislators that everyone else took financial responsibility EXCEPT home inspectors, AND nobody else but US used those sleazy "Limit of Liability Clauses".

Gosh was I really embarrassed to learn the REAL truth about US. I could sure understand why it was so NECESSARY to get us LICENSED.

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Old 1/6/10, 6:45 AM
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Andrew Shick Andrew Shick is offline
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Default Re: Kansas Taxpayers Carry the Costs for HI Registration Law

You're right Dan - we are BAD! Do you think if paid double the registration fee it would make up for all the little ol ladies that I've ripped off by not doing the work that I told them I was going to do?

Oh wait...that wasn't me, I must have been thinking of those other guys...



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Old 1/6/10, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: Kansas Taxpayers Carry the Costs for HI Registration Law

I wonder who are the legislatures going to listen too now, the ones who said there was not enough inspectors to regulate or the ones who lied and gave exploited numbers. The legislatures need to understand if a group gets caught lying about one thing, how many other things are they lying about?
The Kansas inspectors need to point out that this bill is not going to work to every legislature so the legislatures are aware what has happened, that they were dooped of by KAR and A$HI. It needs to be pointed out that if this bill goes through that their voters will not appreciate how much it is going to cost Kansas voters. That taking away monies from already unfunded, but needed, programs just to regulate a few home inspectors (which has not be proven a need to be regulated in the first place) is the wrong thing to do.
The vote for the cleanup bill is coming up so there is no time to waste!
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Old 1/6/10, 11:14 AM
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SB 329 is still in play; we need to keep an eye out for this bill if, and when, it comes up.
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