KCRAR article

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Dan Harris writes:

Dan is 100% correct. Excellent point.

I guessing it is the brother of the home inspector who is performing $150 inspections.

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

What many folks overlook is this one fact:

I send my kid to summer camp, they make me sign a release of liability saying if he gets hurt I won't hold them responsible.

I have lasik surgery, the DOCTOR makes me sign a release of liability saying I know he'll do his best but if I don't get better vision he's not responsible.

Buck Hartley goes to a Marine Corps reunion and the Base Commander makes the vets sign a release of liability saying if they get hurt while on the military base they won't hold the USMC responsible.

Sounds good ..... Now - the bus driver is on drugs and goes off the road hurting the kids; the doctor shows up drunk and nicks your cornea leaving you partly blind in 1 eye; a rejected Marine Recruit forced to join the Army visits Camp Pendelton with a sawed off 12 gauge and shoots Buck.

Everybody signed release of liability forms - BUT - everybody gets sued.

Same with Home Inspectors. If a case looks frivilous or without merit, a judge may dismiss it by saying "They have a LIMIT of liability - here it is, now go home"; OR he may chose to go forward with the case if he thinks we were negligent or ..........

When a realestator ORtheir hirlings OR a dumb 3rd world home inspector in Kansas tells legislators a buyer has no recourse without legislation - other than getting a refund of the fee they paid it makes you gag.

I've realized there are a ton of STUPID people in those ranks OR just people that like to lie through both sides of their face and hope everybody that hears them is naive or on drugs and believes them.

[Paul Sabados]

Here's an email that I intercepted from Juanita Sanderson, Nick know's who she is, from Mr. Barnes

Dear fellow
members,





We have received
information about the appointment process for becoming a member of the Kansas
Home Inspection Registration Board. The Board members are all appointed by
the Governor and will consist of two at large members and three active
inspectors who have been in the business for at least five years and have
completed at least 1000 fee-paid inspections. The Board will primarily be
a volunteer position, at least for the first one to two years as no fee funds
will be available to provide reimbursement for expenses. The first
board will be responsible for establishing the rules and regulations to
fulfill the requirements of the bill. This will require hundreds of
non reimbursed man hours and travel time. The board will also appoint
committees to help provide guidance in many areas including education,
reciprocation, consumer education, consumer complaint resolution,
inspector violation resolution, etc. To apply for a board position you
must go to the following site and complete the application, which is submitted
directly to the Governors office. The dead line for applications is
June 15. If you are interested in a
committee position additional information will be provided later this
summer.





If you have any
questions, please feel free to call me at 316-393-0735.





Jeff Barnes,
President

Here is the link to the Gov's site http://governor.ks.gov/appointments.htm

Note how they word playing on the job discription, hours needed etc. Oh yeah, don't forget, they're already planning on all of the sub-committees that will be required. The app is available for on-line submittal and a PDF form.

[Nick Gromicko]

Dan Bowers writes:

Every time I heard a realtor or KAR employee or ASHI/KAREI inspector spout that BS, I wondered if (1) they really were that naive or dumb; OR (2) if they were just flat out scum bag liars. I never found a choice (3).

No offense Dan, nothing personal, but I have to ask... in what category do you place those who financially fund ASHI?

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Creatures of habit OR hoping that by working in the ranks they can change it somewhat. I've got 3 ex-ASHI Presidents, many BOD members or other long time members that aren't satisfied with ..... OR ..... but stay on board hoping that by their presence they can at least sway a few others.

[Nick Gromicko]

They sound like Neville Chamberlain. Only Neville didn't give Hitler money each year, so I apologize to Mr. Chamberlain for the comparison.

[John McKenna]

Accoutability = Inspector write more detailed and harder reports (as stated on
previous post by others).

Consumer wins, Inspector does better job, Realtors looses sales.

Cool.

[Steven C. Meyer]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Accoutability = Inspector write more detailed and harder reports (as stated on
previous post by others).

Consumer wins, Inspector does better job, Realtors looses sales.

Cool.

There is always a bright side to everything. The realtors has finally come out with a bill that is consumer protection!

The realtors soft report lap dogs will be sued out of business.

That will only leave the honest inspectors in the market.

Consumer wins as they will finally get a complete, honest report, with just the client in mind, with the inspector not beholding to the whims/wishes of the realtor.

The low baller slugs out of existence, prices will rise back up to where they should be.

Being a "deal killer" will become a badge of honor.

And the best part, the realtors won't be able to do a thing about it. Yes, the look on their face would be priceless. for every thing else, there is master card.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it! And the realtors will "get it" in the end with lost sales, lost commissions.

If this works as it should, the realtor will no longer be in "control" of the inspector. This will come back to bite them!!

Being such "smart professionals," they are just not that bright!

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I think the consumer will lose too because they will probably not bother to read the 100+ page double sided report because they will feel to over whelmed. The consumer does not look at a house the same as you and me their is a lot of emotion involved.

[Steven C. Meyer]

Originally Posted by jbraun

I think the consumer will lose too because they will probably not bother to read the 100+ page double sided report because they will feel to over whelmed. The consumer does not look at a house the same as you and me their is a lot of emotion involved.

If they don't bother to read it or count on their realtor to explain it to them, what can you do. The information is there, what they chose to do with it ya can't control.

That is going to be the down side of this law, as EVERY small and large problem/issue will need to be documanted. The inspector has no choice but to cover his behind first.

What will be interesting just how nit picky the inspectors will become, just to cover themselves, and also get even with the R/E agents/industry.

Would be an interesting study, over the next year or so, what impact this law will have on the R/E industry. I forsee a lot of deals going south, and seller having to dump money to sell.

Much to the unhappiness of the agent, buyer will know of EVERY problem, no matter how small.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Originally Posted by Steven C. Meyer

If they don't bother to read it or count on their Realtor to explain it to them, what can you do.

Their Realtor is going to have to go to a special class to learn how to read the report.
They will probably make it one of their special Realtor designations such as the Study of Home Inspector Terminology or (SHI*). Imagine that acronym behind their name.

[Steven C. Meyer]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Their Realtor is going to have to go to a special class to learn how to read the report.
They will probably make it one of their special Realtor designations such as the Study of Home Inspector Terminology or (SHI*). Imagine that acronym behind their name.

That's a good one!!!!!

A new "required" class for realtors. The schools will love it!!$$$$$$$

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Their Realtor is going to have to go to a special class to learn how to read the report.
They will probably make it one of their special Realtor designations such as the Study of Home Inspector Terminology or (SHI*). Imagine that acronym behind their name.

Now I don't care what you say... Thats funny!

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

One of the local RE schools already has a CE class called:

"Slaying the Deal Killer".

Bet you'll never guess what group of people they're referring to ............

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Most local warranty companies say that that for the average house a "MECHANICAL" warranty runs $405 to $450. They also state that a furnace or A/C unit failure is typically their biggest hits ($1,000 - $2,000).

Now a Kansas home inspector examining the AVERAGE house in the state (rural, city, in-between) will charge typically $265 - $325 and offer to be a $10,000 mechanical, structural and roof warranty.

Cool .....................

No matter how tight you inspect, you'll have people trying to hit you because they'll see the $10,000 as an open pocket book AND now you can't brush the whiny baby, frivilous ones away easily. Think about it .......