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Old 11/12/09, 1:05 AM
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Default Licensing fails to protect consumer again.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/m...1_175237_11652

Next time hire an InterNACHI inspector... dummies.



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Old 11/12/09, 1:52 AM
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BC Home Inspectors were not licensed at the time of the incident.




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Old 11/12/09, 1:59 AM
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BC Home Inspectors were not licensed at the time of the incident.
Try not to ruin a good story.
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Old 11/12/09, 2:23 AM
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Toth is a member of the Canadian Association of Home and Property Inspectors, a self-regulating association that licenses its members.
For licensing, I believe BC relies on the very same association mentioned in the article as the poor consumers did.



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Old 11/12/09, 6:53 AM
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This incident is one of many reasons why the Commonwealth of Massachusetts came out with the following regulation...


6.06: Prohibitions

Inspectors are prohibited from:

(6) Determining the cost of repairs of any item noted in their Report and/or inspected by them and/or their firm.
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Old 11/12/09, 9:53 AM
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This incident is one of many reasons why the Commonwealth of Massachusetts came out with the following regulation...


6.06: Prohibitions

Inspectors are prohibited from:

(6) Determining the cost of repairs of any item noted in their Report and/or inspected by them and/or their firm.

It's not necessary having a law as long as one uses an SOP that says the same thing.

Licensing solves nothing.



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Old 11/12/09, 10:29 AM
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This will happen soon in Kansas; attorneys cannot wait for the new laws to take place, and to extort millions from the insurance companies of home inspectors. Newbies will not be trained in the effects of litigation; just the basics of performing home inspections, under the poorest laws ever enacted in Kansas, with different SOP's than any other state or national association, under the watchful eyes of RE agents; all who just want the home to sell, no matter what.
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Old 11/12/09, 11:48 AM
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David Valley writes:
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This incident is one of many reasons why the Commonwealth of Massachusetts came out with the following regulation...


6.06: Prohibitions

Inspectors are prohibited from:

(6) Determining the cost of repairs of any item noted in their Report and/or inspected by them and/or their firm.
Good point. And why (unlike ASTM) our www.nachi.org/comsop.htm doesn't require repair estimates. Inspections and repair estimates don't mix.



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Old 11/12/09, 4:11 PM
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Inspections and repair estimates don't mix.
You are absolutely correct.

When my clients ask me about a cost figure for a specific defect (which happens on a daily basis), I always tell them (and note in my report) to hire the appropriate contractors for an evaluation for estimates.
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Old 11/12/09, 6:21 PM
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Any inspector who quotes pricing of repairs are just asking for a letter from an attorney.
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Old 11/13/09, 7:28 PM
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Any inspector who quotes pricing of repairs are just asking for a letter from an attorney.
It is common practice here in Florida, in some areas its demanded.



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Old 11/13/09, 8:09 PM
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It is common practice here in Florida, in some areas its demanded.
This is very true but it is also illegal. State Contractor law prohibits the estimation of costs to repair unless the estimator is qualified(holds a license) and prepared to do the work for the estimated cost.
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Old 11/13/09, 8:40 PM
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Would quoting a repair as you were inspecting but not having any record of the qouted repairs be possbly harmful to a inspector. Isn't the report the official document and what is verbely said during a inspection not for record??



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Old 11/14/09, 6:53 AM
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Would quoting a repair as you were inspecting but not having any record of the qouted repairs be possbly harmful to a inspector. Isn't the report the official document and what is verbely said during a inspection not for record??
What are the advantages of quoting repair estimates to Buyers anyways?

I highly recommend letting the professionals do their job and let them give the estimations of repairs. Contractors purchase building materials and deal with billing homeowners every day of the week, we HI's don't.
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Old 11/14/09, 8:58 PM
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David Valley writes: Good point. And why (unlike ASTM) our www.nachi.org/comsop.htm doesn't require repair estimates. Inspections and repair estimates don't mix.
I would like it if when the Fl lisencing COE is finalized by DBPR that precendent set by another state that prohibits estimation found it's way into our requirements too.
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