Licensing - Love it/Hate it

[kmiller1]

Jim, hate to say it, but you are wrong about licensing the trades. Not all states license them, but many do. Michigan doesn't license HI's, but they sure do license the skilled trdes and the builders. Hasn't done a lot to get rid of sleezebags in the builder's ranks, but it sure has helped with the skilled trades.

[rwand1]

The poll is telling a different story. Oh oh. Fact vs. Fiction.

[klott]

On any future polls, how many Nachi inspectors are in each state needs to be considered. IMO Also, these polls should be in the members only section so other orgs that promote licensing cannot skew the results. IMOA

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Licensing.....LOVE IT...LOVE IT.....LOVE IT....don't ask me why...I dont care why...I LOVE IT....LOVE IT...LOVE IT....now RED BOX that statement

[Paul W. Abernathy]

Licensing - Love...8/29/07 9:42 PM okay lol...hey WANNA BE......thanks for the negative post.....ever heard the term EAT ME....

[rwand1]

Looks like polls are more than for dogs to pee on. So much for the pleadings that licencing sucks, and it should be shunned.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by rwand1

Looks like polls are more than for dogs to pee on. So much for the pleadings that licencing sucks, and it should be shunned.

I don't know what poll you are reading, but this one shows clearly that those in unlicensed states do not want it. The Stockholm Syndrome would probably best explain why so many in licensed states favor it, other than the fact that most or all of them came on board after it was implemented and have no reference point.

Licensing, as has been proven in the only actual government study of it, solves nothing.

[rwand1]

Holly crap, you are right, I have been reading the wrong poll. Okay polls are for dogs to pee on!

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

Six (6) counties in Kansas have mandatory code inspections out of over 100.

Three (3) counties in Kansas have mandatory licensing of builders, remodelers, contractors, etc. Not an occupational license - but a real take a test type of license.

Architects, engineers, home builders, contractors, real estate agents, etc, etc are NOT required to have E & O Insurance to get licensed.

A home builder, contractor, remodeler in the 3 counties with licensing are required to take a 80 question open book code test (4 hours to take it) AND show proof of $1,000,000 general liability insurance (mine as a HI costs $460 per year) to get their license. They are NOT required to show proof of ever having built or remodeled a house, etc. They are NOT required to show ANY type of schooling or training in their chosen occupation, etc.

They are NOT required to have FBI, CIA or KGB background checks AND there is NO question on their application asking for a SS#, DOB or DL#; if they've ever been involved in drive-by shootings; political assinations; mob, gang or drug related crimes, or if they are sex preverts, etc.

They did have 1 question asking if they had ever had the same type of license revoked or suspended elsewhere.

They were required to have 8 hrs of CE annually.

I can live with that type of licensing for us.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by klott

On any future polls, how many Nachi inspectors are in each state needs to be considered. IMO Also, these polls should be in the members only section so other orgs that promote licensing cannot skew the results. IMOA

I can not vote so niether can anyone else who might not be a member........

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jbushart

I don't know what poll you are reading, but this one shows clearly that those in unlicensed states do not want it. The Stockholm Syndrome would probably best explain why so many in licensed states favor it, other than the fact that most or all of them came on board after it was implemented and have no reference point.

Licensing, as has been proven in the only actual government study of it, solves nothing.

Why would____________ people like yourself want to be subject to licensing?

I see this as the only reason a Professional HI would want to have NO regulation in their State.

The only States with credibilty when it comes to laws are those with regulations. They are the ones keeping optomitrists etc. from being HI's.

Well, I spose you could add some NACHI members to the list. I am speaking of those that have actuall experience and have not just passed the nachi ? "TEST"

I fail to understand why anyone who claims to be a proffesional home inspector does not wish to have the State they reside in give them credit for the credit that is due to them for all of the hard work they have put into there jobs and the profession.

I suppose there is a reason..................

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by dbowers

Six (6) counties in Kansas have mandatory code inspections out of over 100.

Three (3) counties in Kansas have mandatory licensing of builders, remodelers, contractors, etc. Not an occupational license - but a real take a test type of license.

Architects, engineers, home builders, contractors, real estate agents, etc, etc are NOT required to have E & O Insurance to get licensed.

A home builder, contractor, remodeler in the 3 counties with licensing are required to take a 80 question open book code test (4 hours to take it) AND show proof of $1,000,000 general liability insurance (mine as a HI costs $460 per year) to get their license. They are NOT required to show proof of ever having built or remodeled a house, etc. They are NOT required to show ANY type of schooling or training in their chosen occupation, etc.

They are NOT required to have FBI, CIA or KGB background checks AND there is NO question on their application asking for a SS#, DOB or DL#; if they've ever been involved in drive-by shootings; political assinations; mob, gang or drug related crimes, or if they are sex preverts, etc.

They did have 1 question asking if they had ever had the same type of license revoked or suspended elsewhere.

They were required to have 8 hrs of CE annually.

I can live with that type of licensing for us.

I did 40+ every year..... State did require 0.. Thats sad..

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

"The only States with credibilty when it comes to laws, are those with regulations. They are the ones keeping optomitrists etc. from being HI's".

You think there's credibility in being licensed - and none if not.

You're kidding right.

For example - As a "non-licensed home inspector" in a "non-licensed state", I've done expert witness over 23 times in the past 6 years alone against "licensed engineers". Not to be rude, but to date its 23/0 in my favor.

If I look at the home inspector licensing laws in place around the country and hung my entire credibility hat on meeting their requirements, I wouldn't have a whole lot except in maybe 2 of them.

Sorry - licensing doesn't really protect the consumer OR us (especially us), AND the licensing of inspectors is so pathetically simplistic (except in 1 or 2 states) that it doesn't keep hardly anyone out of the profession.

Witness that by the INCREASE in HI numbers in most licensed states AFTER licensing went into play.

All it mostly does is give others a lever in controlling what we do.

Almost every other profession outguns us in man-power, political influence, money, etc. Once we're licensed it makes it a lot easier to jerk our chains.

[Nick Gromicko]

Right on Dan!

Licensing is alot like being up to code, it is such a minimum standard that if you did anything less it would be illegal.

Insecure inspectors love licensing because they think it is the top.... it's actually the bottom.

[gporter]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Right on Dan!

Licensing is alot like being up to code, it is such a minimum standard that if you did anything less it would be illegal.

Insecure inspectors love licensing because they think it is the top.... it's actually the bottom.

How true Nick