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[James E. Braun, CMI]

So are you saying the CDC is wrong about using bleach on porous surfaces? I thought you was using the CDC as a creditable source on mold?

[Cameron C. Anderson]

Originally Posted by jbraun

So are you saying the CDC is wrong about using bleach on porous surfaces? I thought you was using the CDC as a creditable source on mold?

HAHAHAHAH!!! LOL I... can't... breath... Oh man, that is so ridiculous that it has actually now become funny. I am totally in awe of your lack of attention to details and then, with a straight face, you tell other people to "educate yourself... What are you smoking... Try actually reading some of the stuff you post... I suggest you read...". That is just PRICELESS.

From the CDC webpage we've been discussing, please take note of the subtle emphasis I've included:
"Mold growth can be removed from hardsurfaces with commercial products, soap and water, or a bleach solution"

I sure hope you read that this time, that's the largest font NACHI has. The CDC didn't say anything about "wood" or "porous surfaces", it only recommends bleach on hard surfaces. But just to clarify:

porous = wood, drywall, paneling, etc.
hard = tile, laminate, stone, block, concrete, etc.

So again, drop this obsession with thinking we all (including the CDC) recommend bleach on moldy wood, none of us said that, including the CDC. Let's get back to all that information you have to share with us about toxic mold. You said something about the EPA?

[Billy Boerner]

http://www.familyhandyman.com/DIY-Pr...ep-By-Step#top

www.black-mold-guide.com/cleaning-mold-and-mildew.html

The two links above should solve the mold mystery for all

Surface -- Bleach, water, detergent
Porous -- Remove it.
To eliminate mold -- Cut off the moisture source.

http://www.cdc.gov/mold/stachy.htm#Q14

I found mold growing in my home; how do I test the mold?

Generally, it is not necessary to identify the species of mold growing in a residence, and CDC does not recommend routine sampling for molds. Current evidence indicates that allergies are the type of diseases most often associated with molds. Since the reaction of individuals can vary greatly either because of the person’s susceptibility or type and amount of mold present, sampling and culturing are not reliable in determining your health risk. If you are susceptible to mold and mold is seen or smelled, there is a potential health risk; therefore, no matter what type of mold is present, you should arrange for its removal. Furthermore, reliable sampling for mold can be expensive, and standards for judging what is and what is not an acceptable or tolerable quantity of mold have not been established.

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A qualified environmental lab took samples of the mold in my home and gave me the results. Can CDC interpret these results?

Standards for judging what is an acceptable, tolerable or normal quantity of mold have not been established. If you do decide to pay for environmental sampling for molds, before the work starts, you should ask the consultants who will do the work to establish criteria for interpreting the test results. They should tell you in advance what they will do or what recommendations they will make based on the sampling results. The results of samples taken in your unique situation cannot be interpreted without physical inspection of the contaminated area or without considering the building’s characteristics and the factors that led to the present condition.

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Summary

In summary, Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) and other molds may cause health symptoms that are nonspecific. At present there is no test that proves an association between Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) and particular health symptoms. Individuals with persistent symptoms should see their physician. However, if Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) or other molds are found in a building, prudent practice recommends that they be removed.

The end.

[Cameron C. Anderson]

Originally Posted by bboerner

http://www.familyhandyman.com/DIY-Pr...ep-By-Step#top

www.black-mold-guide.com/cleaning-mold-and-mildew.html

The two links above should solve the mold mystery for all



The end.

May it be so... But I have faith that jbraun will fail to read any of that and still come back with some alarmist opinion.

[Cameron C. Anderson]

Those are okay sites with mostly neutral information and only minor amounts of traversing into the area of mold alarmism. The only thing I had a big disagreement with is the recommendations (like the CDC and others) about when to bring in professionals. They probably make their recommendation based on liability, but my personal opinion is that if you can clean up 10sq.ft. you can clean 100. And if you can clean 100 you can clean more than that. Every homeowner has different skill sets and some may just want to drop the money(around here it's big money) for a professional. If I were buying a house and found a large amount of mold I would definately request professional cleanup. Especially if it's a bank as they are the worst homeowners out there and their disregard for moisture control makes them deserve it.

[Billy Boerner]

Originally Posted by canderson5

Those are okay sites with mostly neutral information and only minor amounts of traversing into the area of mold alarmism. The only thing I had a big disagreement with is the recommendations (like the CDC and others) about when to bring in professionals. They probably make their recommendation based on liability, but my personal opinion is that if you can clean up 10sq.ft. you can clean 100. And if you can clean 100 you can clean more than that. Every homeowner has different skill sets and some may just want to drop the money(around here it's big money) for a professional. If I were buying a house and found a large amount of mold I would definately request professional cleanup. Especially if it's a bank as they are the worst homeowners out there and their disregard for moisture control makes them deserve it.

Depends on the type of mold. I think what most sites are trying to say is it's ok to clean up the small stuff but when you get to dealing with large colonies it's better to play it safe by hiring pro's to clean it up or atleast have the mold analyzed to see what your dealing with before putting yourself in harms way.

[Cameron C. Anderson]

Originally Posted by bboerner

or atleast have the mold analyzed to see what your dealing with before putting yourself in harms way.

That right there is the crux of the recent discussion. What or who determines what is a health risk? If a lab report comes back with a spore count which includes any stachybotrys... well, what does that mean for the client? Is it worse than high levels of, say, cladosporium? Does the interior/exterior comparison tell us anything useful? Who is the right professional to call?

If Luke is going to take on mold in his business, he has a lot of professional opinions to solidify in his own mind before he starts advising clients. Jbraun was right about one thing, people will sue the crap out of you over mold if they see an opening. And the more uninformed the client, the more likely they are to consider court. It pays to be educated and know all sides of the debate.

[Gary Farnsworth]

I heard a story one time that a family became very sick after they moved into their home. Doctor said it was mold. He recommend that they have their house tested for mold. They did. Cut holes in walls, carpet, thousands of dollars in expenses. Mold was found in the home, but most mold numbers were lower in the inside of the home, than the outside. Family still was sick, and moved to a motel. They started to sue everyone. Come to find out that the highest mold counts were found on the linens and pillows that the family had in storage for six months.

Make your best decision in whether or not to offer mold testing services.