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Old 7/30/07, 12:22 AM
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Old 7/30/07, 12:29 AM
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Because becoming a "Certified Master Inspector" allows you to raise your prices even though your competitors charge less.

www.certifiedmasterinspector.org

Hey Todd, if Mallory's attorney succeeds at getting a court order to have us delete this thread, I'm afraid your CMI and NACHI bashing posts here will suffer from Tiananmen Square style censorship too.

This is so stupid... as if we all just can't move over to another blog somewhere and link to it from here.
They're probably just figuring out what a crappy deal they actually agreed to. Of course it is either that or spend the last of their member's money to end up with nothing.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:30 AM
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Because becoming a "Certified Master Inspector" allows you to raise your prices even though your competitors charge less.

www.certifiedmasterinspector.org

Hey Todd, if Mallory's attorney succeeds at getting a court order to have us delete this thread, I'm afraid your CMI and NACHI bashing posts here will suffer from Tiananmen Square style censorship too.

This is so stupid... as if we all just can't move over to another blog somewhere and link to it from here.
Too funny, I am not not bashing NACHI only the CMI designation. If I read the "masters" web site corectly, CMI is a pointless designation as they are offering a real one for folks that have served there time in the HI industry and not just time served in a comprable trade or as I read it "time alive counts". I did 4 years of High school so that's 8000 hrs towards CMI.....

I see what you are doing Nick and I am trully impressed, but you are nothing but a scam artist.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:31 AM
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Old 7/30/07, 12:33 AM
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They're probably just figuring out what a crappy deal they actually agreed to. Of course it is either that or spend the last of their member's money to end up with nothing.
It is nothing but a marketing ploy, and if folks are dumb enough to buy it without checking, then I guess they get whats comming to them..


" Let The Buyer Be ware"

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Old 7/30/07, 12:33 AM
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Exactly Jim:

Look, we all got a lot of laughs out of the whole penile pump thing (I thought it relatively harmless considering) and the discussion allowed for everyone (including one of their own Chapter Presidents) to discuss the ethics issues openly here. We all take a beating at one time or another. She's not really paying any unusual price for being a public figure (association Executive Director) who permits their inspectors to sell repair services, who permits their inspectors to purchase undeserved praise from agents who are willing to violate their fiduciary duty to their clients, and who sues other successful associations... than would be expected normally.

Can you imagine if they succeed at causing the first censorship of this board since it launched? Crying to a judge about the 1st Amendment (I think it is still there) is attracting more attention to the otherwise ho-hum subject than anything we could ever do.
Now that is funny!!!!!

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Old 7/30/07, 12:40 AM
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It is nothing but a marketing ploy, and if folks are dumb enough to buy it without checking then . I guess they get whats comming to them..


" Let The Buyer Be ware"
I'm not sure it is "marketing" exactly. One one hand it may be a pooor attempt at again using the court to try to intimidate and on another an effort to keep the spin going with respect to how they represented the agreement to members. Of course it could be a little of both.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:41 AM
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Let's see, a NACHI member"passed the online test" then proves said number of "related" hours to get the CMI designation. Hmmmmm, I was a plumber for 1 year and a carpenter for 5 years.................. I is a CMI!!!


LOL, you must be kidding me.


I got a red square for this one calling me a gay basher........... The only person I know for a fact that is Gay is RR and he knows damn good and well that I have nothing against such things,,,,,so reveal yourself loser.

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Old 7/30/07, 12:44 AM
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This should be made into a TV show.
It is so funny!!

18 MR. COHEN: And she has expressed opinions --
19 you referred to Mr. Gromicko's many lies.
20 BY MR. COHEN:
21 Q When you say his many lies, what did you mean by his
22 many lies?
23 A He and I dating.
24 Q Did you understand -- tell me about that. He made a
25 representation that he was dating, correct? That he was
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1 dating you?
2 A He is married.
3 Q He made a representation that he was dating you,
4 correct? Yes?
5 A Yes.
6 Q He made that representation on his web site, on NACHI's
7 web site?
8 A I heard about it. I wasn't in town to see.
9 Q In fact, that was on April Fool's Day, wasn't it?
10 A Yes.
11 Q And that was a joke by Mr. Gromicko, correct?
12 A Some people took it that way, some people didn't.
13 Q How do you think Mr. Bowman took your joke when you
14 invited him to have a free membership in NAHI?
15 A What does that have to do --
16 MR. ROACH: Objection, relevance.
17 THE WITNESS: That doesn't have anything to do
18 with anything.
19 BY MR. COHEN:
20 Q It's okay for you to send a joke --
21 A What about --
22 Q Ma'am, it's okay for you -- for NAHI to send a joke --
23 MR. ROACH: Objection, argumentative.
24 MR. COHEN: You got your objection on the
25 record.
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1 BY MR. COHEN:
2 Q It's okay for you to send NAHI a joke that says John
3 Bowman can have a free membership, yet you can call Mr.
4 Gromicko a liar because on April Fool's Day he made an
5 announcement that you and he were dating?
6 MR. ROACH: Are you arguing with the witness?
7 MR. COHEN: I'm asking her a question.
8 MR. ROACH: Well, that's not a question.
9 THE WITNESS: That isn't a question.
10 BY MR. COHEN:
11 Q Sure it is. Is that one of the bases for your belief
12 that Mr. Gromicko is a liar is that on April Fool's Day
13 he made a representation to the public that you and he
14 were dating?



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Old 7/30/07, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jmckenna1

This should be made into a TV show.
It is so funny!!

18 MR. COHEN: And she has expressed opinions --
19 you referred to Mr. Gromicko's many lies.
20 BY MR. COHEN:
21 Q When you say his many lies, what did you mean by his
22 many lies?
23 A He and I dating.
24 Q Did you understand -- tell me about that. He made a
25 representation that he was dating, correct? That he was
00143
1 dating you?
2 A He is married.
3 Q He made a representation that he was dating you,
4 correct? Yes?
5 A Yes.
6 Q He made that representation on his web site, on NACHI's
7 web site?
8 A I heard about it. I wasn't in town to see.
9 Q In fact, that was on April Fool's Day, wasn't it?
10 A Yes.
11 Q And that was a joke by Mr. Gromicko, correct?
12 A Some people took it that way, some people didn't.
13 Q How do you think Mr. Bowman took your joke when you
14 invited him to have a free membership in NAHI?
15 A What does that have to do --
16 MR. ROACH: Objection, relevance.
17 THE WITNESS: That doesn't have anything to do
18 with anything.
19 BY MR. COHEN:
20 Q It's okay for you to send a joke --
21 A What about --
22 Q Ma'am, it's okay for you -- for NAHI to send a joke --
23 MR. ROACH: Objection, argumentative.
24 MR. COHEN: You got your objection on the
25 record.
00144
1 BY MR. COHEN:
2 Q It's okay for you to send NAHI a joke that says John
3 Bowman can have a free membership, yet you can call Mr.
4 Gromicko a liar because on April Fool's Day he made an
5 announcement that you and he were dating?
6 MR. ROACH: Are you arguing with the witness?
7 MR. COHEN: I'm asking her a question.
8 MR. ROACH: Well, that's not a question.
9 THE WITNESS: That isn't a question.
10 BY MR. COHEN:
11 Q Sure it is. Is that one of the bases for your belief
12 that Mr. Gromicko is a liar is that on April Fool's Day
13 he made a representation to the public that you and he
14 were dating?
???

I am sorry, I missed the point.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:51 AM
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Todd,

Is a home inspector's brochure a "marketing ploy?"

Is a home inspector's website a "marketing ploy?"

Is saying that "I've done over 1,000 inspections" a "marketing ploy?"

Certified Master Inspector, like all professional designations in all industry's, (http://www.realtor.org/runivers.nsf/pages/designation) is obviously going to be used for marketing purposes. Althought I think CMI is particularly good at fee structure raising.

www.certifiedmasterinspector.org



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Old 7/30/07, 12:52 AM
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WOW, I have never had so many emails!!

It looks like they are on my side Nickefer. Go figure.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:53 AM
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Too funny, I am not not bashing NACHI only the CMI designation. If I read the "masters" web site corectly, CMI is a pointless designation as they are offering a real one for folks that have served there time in the HI industry and not just time served in a comprable trade or as I read it "time alive counts". I did 4 years of High school so that's 8000 hrs towards CMI.....

I see what you are doing Nick and I am trully impressed, but you are nothing but a scam artist.
I'm not sure that I plan to apply for the CMI designation but it seems that it is a valid combination of related education and experience, code of ethics, SOP and criminal background check. One would be safe to say that there is a better chance of getting a competent inspector than to just "let your fingers do the walking".

I'm not sure we are reading the same requirements. I don't know how one could even think of including high school. I'm not finding a reference to "time alive".

Looks on the up and up to me, and I am a pretty dyed in the wool skeptic.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:55 AM
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Todd,

Is a home inspector's brochure a "marketing ploy?"

Is a home inspector's website a "marketing ploy?"

Is saying that "I've done over 1,000 inspections" a "marketing ploy?"

Certified Master Inspector, like all professional designations in all industry's, (http://www.realtor.org/runivers.nsf/pages/designation) is obviously going to be used for marketing purposes. Althought I think CMI is particularly good at fee structure raising.

www.certifiedmasterinspector.org


NO.



CMI is a marketing ploy that anyone can get and if you look at who already has it on there web site it is obvious to all.

CMI "Certified Master imposter", I don't mean that for the folks that have earned it.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:57 AM
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Todd,

Saying that CMI is too easy to get is a much different complaint than saying it is being used as a marketing ploy.

NAR verifies their ABR requirements, but so what... they only require a 2 day course and a whopping 5 clients over 3 years: http://www.rebac.net/Content.aspx?Pa...20Requirements

5 clients over 3 years?!!! Makes www.certifiedmasterinspector.org requirements look like a degree from Yale.



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