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Old 7/29/07, 11:57 PM
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I'm not sure that I plan to apply for the CMI designation but it seems that it is a valid combination of related education and experience, code of ethics, SOP and criminal background check. One would be safe to say that there is a better chance of getting a competent inspector than to just "let your fingers do the walking".

I'm not sure we are reading the same requirements. I don't know how one could even think of including high school. I'm not finding a reference to "time alive".

Looks on the up and up to me, and I am a pretty dyed in the wool skeptic.
I have not looked at the requirements for some time, but at one point " time in trade or related experience" was there.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:05 AM
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Todd, wrong.

"Time" was never an adopted requirement at www.certifiedmasterinspector.org although it was proposed in www.nachi.org/cmiformula.htm years ago.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:10 AM
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Let's see, a NACHI member"passed the online test" then proves said number of "related" hours to get the CMI designation. Hmmmmm, I was a plumber for 1 year and a carpenter for 5 years.................. I is a CMI!!!


LOL, you must be kidding me.
No, "working" as a plumber or a carpenter can't be used according to the requirments and application I am reading.

"Have completed 1,000 fee-paid inspections or hours of inspection-related continuing education (combined) in your lifetime.

a. Experience: Inspections must have been performed for actual fee-paying clients, but do not have to be your clients (you can count inspections you performed while working for someone else). Limit one inspection per residence (3 inspections on one home count as one inspection).

b.
Education: The Master Inspector Certification Board’s qualifying continuing education subject matter is quite broad. Anything one could reasonably deem to be inspection-related qualifies, including classroom, home study, and online courses and seminars. Business success, accounting, marketing, etc. courses do not count. Repeated courses do not count twice. Hours count hour-for-hour. For example: If it takes you 6 hours to complete a course, it counts as 6 hours... "

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The sum of the inspections performed (a.) and the hours of continuing education completed (b.) need to add up to 1,000 or more."

How you come up with high school and work as a plumber ot carpenter being able to be included in the 1000 hours is beyond me. No CMI for you!







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Old 7/30/07, 12:10 AM
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Todd,

Saying that CMI is too easy to get is a much different complaint than saying it is being used as a marketing ploy.

NAR verifies their ABR requirements, but so what... they only require a 2 day course and a whopping 5 clients over 3 years: http://www.rebac.net/Content.aspx?Pa...20Requirements

5 clients over 3 years?!!! Makes www.certifiedmasterinspector.org requirements look like a degree from Yale.
Oh, I is sorry I thought CMI was a raising of the bar, but in fact it is just a raising of the phoney requirements that noone pays any attention to.

I know .. NACHI is not responsible for the members lapse in reporting or requirments to mantain the membership to NACHI,( I should know as I was a member for years and never reported anything) but I would think that as a HI ORG, you would take the time to pay the folks to verifie at the very least there CMI qualifications.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:12 AM
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No, "working" as a plumber or a carpenter can't be used according to the requirments and application I am reading.

"Have completed 1,000 fee-paid inspections or hours of inspection-related continuing education (combined) in your lifetime.

a. Experience: Inspections must have been performed for actual fee-paying clients, but do not have to be your clients (you can count inspections you performed while working for someone else). Limit one inspection per residence (3 inspections on one home count as one inspection).

b.
Education: The Master Inspector Certification Board’s qualifying continuing education subject matter is quite broad. Anything one could reasonably deem to be inspection-related qualifies, including classroom, home study, and online courses and seminars. Business success, accounting, marketing, etc. courses do not count. Repeated courses do not count twice. Hours count hour-for-hour. For example: If it takes you 6 hours to complete a course, it counts as 6 hours... "

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The sum of the inspections performed (a.) and the hours of continuing education completed (b.) need to add up to 1,000 or more."

How you come up with high school and work as a plumber ot carpenter being able to be included in the 1000 hours is beyond me. No CMI for you!

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It seems the requirments have changed. I wonder if you have looked at the other designation? Or are you mixing the 2 -up?
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Todd, yes you did. I still possess your affidavit.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:14 AM
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and the hours of continuing education completed (

This includes "ALL" hours of education in a related feild.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:15 AM
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Todd, yes you did. I still possess your affidavit.
AND ?

Would you like a new one?
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Old 7/30/07, 12:17 AM
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Todd, yes you did. I still possess your affidavit.
So, am I a used to be member or was I still trying? Did I
send my reports in or not?

Did they make the cut, or not?
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Todd, sure! Want to join NACHI? Please do. I'll process your application personally: www.nachi.org/membership.htm



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Old 7/30/07, 12:18 AM
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It seems the requirments have changed. I wonder if you have looked at the other designation? Or are you mixing the 2 -up?


What other designation would that be? I only see the one.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:19 AM
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Maybe you should call J, F LOL
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I know some B.S. associations verify that a few unsupervised inspection reports comply with Standards of Practice, but in this day and age where none of the inspection forms sold, and none of inspection software companies out ther, technically permit an inspector to generate anything less than an SOP-compliant report, I think the whole requirement nothing more than pure B.S.



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Old 7/30/07, 12:22 AM
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What other designation would that be? I only see the one.

Hmm, it seems you have not been paying attention.
No offence my friend, but the MF in charge of CMI has revealed a new designation.

In my oppinion he stomped on most all of the NACHI members and thus my outburst.

Just do a search and save me the damn trouble.
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Old 7/30/07, 12:23 AM
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and the hours of continuing education completed (

This includes "ALL" hours of education in a related feild.
No, that would be:

"Anything one could reasonably deem to be inspection-related qualifies"

You have not presented anything that would qualify as some sort of loophole.



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