More From Mallory....

[Nick Gromicko]

Yes, so a plumbing inspection course (that originally had nothing to do with home inspections) would be considered "inspection-related" education.

What is wrong with that?

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

I know some B.S. associations verify that a few unsupervised inspection reports comply with Standards of Practice, but in this day and age where none of the inspection forms sold, and none of inspection software companies out ther, technically permit an inspector to generate anything less than an SOP-compliant report, I think the whole requirement nothing more than pure B.S.

Nick, before I reply I need to know that I am talking to you and not one of the wonderfull folks in the office.

[David Nice]

Originally Posted by tallen

Hmm, it seems you have not been paying attention.
No offence my friend, but the MF in charge of CMI has revealed a new designation.

In my oppinion he stomped on most all of the NACHI members and thus my outburst.

Just do a search and save me the damn trouble.

I think that it is you that might not been keeping up. I'm pretty sure that the MF you were referring to has been replaced along with his "new designation".

[Nick Gromicko]

Statistically (mostly because of minimum standard licensing), the "home inspection courses" out there are almost all basic 101. It is the "inspection-related" courses that are much more likely to be advanced.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Yes, so a plumbing inspection course (that originally had nothing to do with home inspections) would be considered "inspection-related" education.

What is wrong with that?

I have over 12000 hrs as an electrician and I can tell you for A fact that that does not translate into a good HI, much less a CMI.

I am a certified welder, a certified metal worker, certified in rigging, certified to 48 tons , "equipment" including cranes.......Etc. and none of this has didle to do with HI"S, but all of this can be applied to my CMI ????

[David Nice]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Yes, so a plumbing inspection course (that originally had nothing to do with home inspections) would be considered "inspection-related" education.

What is wrong with that?

And that would NOT include the class where you learn to install a bathtub, while a class in inspecting the installation would, yes?

[David Nice]

Originally Posted by tallen

I have over 12000 hrs as an electrician and I can tell you for A fact that that does not translate into a good HI, much less a CMI.

That is true and unless you took classes to learn how to inspect electrical work none of those 12000 hours would count towards a CMI. And neither would your welding, metal work or rigging experience.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by tallen

Oh, I is sorry I thought CMI was a raising of the bar, but in fact it is just a raising of the phoney requirements that noone pays any attention to.

I know .. NACHI is not responsible for the members lapse in reporting or requirements to maintain the membership to NACHI,( I should know as I was a member for years and never reported anything) but I would think that as a HI ORG, you would take the time to pay the folks to verifie at the very least there CMI qualifications.

In other words, you are saying....

You were a liar for years, and therefore that is the evidence that
all people are liars.?

and

NACHI is morally corrupt because they did not catch you lying?
You are OK, but NACHI is the blame for your lying?

Yes, some people live a lie, like you stated, and thinks it's OK.
But that is their shame.

You sound like a little kid, with twisted thinking.

Are you proud of living a lie?

Has it occurred to you that some people do not lie on their application
and affidavits? Some have worked hard for years to get their business
to succeed. Who the hell do you think you are to judge people those
who have done you no wrong? Condemn the liars, not those have
mastered the profession with years of hard work.

CMI is intended as a designation for those who earned it. If people try to
abuse it, why does this make CMI the fault?

[Ted Allen]

lotsa greenies:


More From Mallory.... 7/29/07 8:58 PM Sic-um..Todd....!!!!

It seems alot of folks feel the same way.

Thank you!!

[Nick Gromicko]

Todd, I'm not sure, but courses on general construction or on how to be an electrician in general would probably not count IMHO as they are not specifically "INSPECTION-related." Now a course on "Performing Electrical Inspections" would count.

I'm no longer much involved with CMI anymore though, so not up to me.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Todd,

Saying that CMI is too easy to get is a much different complaint than saying it is being used as a marketing ploy.

NAR verifies their ABR requirements, but so what... they only require a 2 day course and a whopping 5 clients over 3 years: http://www.rebac.net/Content.aspx?Pa...20Requirements

5 clients over 3 years?!!! Makes www.certifiedmasterinspector.org requirements look like a degree from Yale.

I is fairly sure we were talking about CMI requirments and some other BS.

Yale, hmmmm, that is almost true!!!


CMI at it's inseption was open to all, regardless of the present CMI qualifications. Is this true or is it untrue? And what was the reason for this lapse in quality?

[Ted Allen]

Will "you" as the Owner of NACHI reveal to the public the folks that received there CMI before the "new" requirements came into play??:

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by tallen

I is fairly sure we were talking about CMI requirments and some other BS.

Yale, hmmmm, that is almost true!!!


CMI at it's inseption was open to all, regardless of the present CMI qualifications. Is this true or is it untrue? And what was the reason for this lapse in quality?

If you look at the history of all state licensing and educational designations,
they have all gone through an evolution.

How come you not the same person you once were?

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

If you look at the history of all state licensing and educational designations,
they have all gone through an evolution.

How come you not the same person you once were?

I is the same as always, I just have a different agenda..

Anyway, if you have been watching this (CMI) from it's inseption you will see what it really is all about.

It's not about you or me it's about marketing and if you read it from the very begging I thionk you will come to the same conclusion that I and many other folks have come to.
However, I respect you and your right to do as you will and I applaud you for it.

[Ted Allen]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

If you look at the history of all state licensing and educational designations,
they have all gone through an evolution.

How come you not the same person you once were?

NO BOOZE!!!!!!!!!