New changes to Wind Mitigation Inspection rules in Florida.

[Harry V. McBride, III]

Steve I just don't see it happening that way. I market myself as the third party inspection. No interest in the transaction. I also don't rely on new home inspections as my bread and butter either. Been doing this awhile. We'll see.

[David Sorge]

Originally Posted by staylor7

Mr. McBride,
I respectfully disagree with you. Once licensing goes live and standardization comes in, Home inspections will become a commodity.

HI is already a commodity Steve. You and I share the same market and witness the same "low-balling". It will not go away nor is it anything new.

There will always be a place for "premium" and "discount" service providers.

The trick is cementing your reputation and position in the market and I don't believe licensing will change that.

I like the cheap guys...they send me top-dollar customers for every price shopper I send to them.

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/wind-mitigation...ion-course.htm

[Bruce M. Graham, III]

Thanks Nick

[Richard Murphy]

Nick,

Looking over the training materials for the Wind Mitigation Course. It looks like the course is designed to be for the My Safe Florida Home Form (which I believe is a defunct program)? There are issues with the Uniform Mitigation Verification Form (OIR-B1-1802) that were not addressed by this program (and the instructors from UF would not discuss the OIR form). Is the course going to address specifics of the OIR form? One big distinction is that staples used for roof deck connection is not an option on the OIR form. Any guidance on these types of issues would be useful.

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by gromicko

http://www.nachi.org/wind-mitigation...ion-course.htm

Is this course based on the new B1-1802 form?

[Ben J. Gromicko]

As soon as the form is finalized, we'll add a section of the course that addresses "how-to" complete the form. This is the latest version that I know of. OIR-B1-1802_Rev_8-5-09.pdf
Is there a later version?

Once you take the InterNACHI wind mitigation course, you should be able to fill out any form that the state or insurer requires. That's one of the objectives of the training course.

[Ben J. Gromicko]

The OIR is having a meeting about the form on 11-17-09 9:00 a.m.
The Capitol
Form OIR-B1- 1802
FSC Cabinet Meeting
Rule: 69O-170.0155
This rule is being amended to adopt a
revised version of Office of Insurance
Regulation form OIR-B1-1802, “Uniform
Mitigation Verification Inspection Form”.
The form is being revised based on
changes to the My Safe Florida Home
program and the experience of the
Office of Insurance Regulation, insurers
and policyholders with the form since
its last revision in July 2007.

Contact: Mike Milnes

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

I, by my signature below certify that I and, if applicable, my employee who performed the inspection, have passed the appropriate equivalency test of theBuilding Code Training Program as required by Section 553.841, Florida Statutes.


What is this Building Code Training Program thingy?

[Greg Bell]

http://www.intrarisk.com/Services/Training.htm

[Joseph T. Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by gbell

http://www.intrarisk.com/Services/Training.htm

Thanks!

[Ed Bancroft]

I read the statute, It looks like CE for contractors, Engineers etc.
On 1802 form it looks like it only applies to Engineers signing the form and their employee who performed the inspection?

[Brian C. Hoagland]

Originally Posted by bgromicko

As soon as the form is finalized, we'll add a section of the course that addresses "how-to" complete the form. This is the latest version that I know of. Attachment 33142
Is there a later version?

Once you take the InterNACHI wind mitigation course, you should be able to fill out any form that the state or insurer requires. That's one of the objectives of the training course.

Course requires updating; the conceptual closed and open structure at the very beginning was eliminated from the code in 2004 and will not be applicable. I didn't get far before that jumped out.

[Brian C. Hoagland]

Originally Posted by gbell

http://www.intrarisk.com/Services/Training.htm

Yeah, I got the state training from Bill York (updated training) of ARA in Orlando, I think it was March of 2008 he had to send somebody working with him out of the room to make a call to confirm that my ICC Building Inspector liscense was inadequate to fill out the form. He also prefaced the entire course with comments about how the instruction was not about how to fill out the 1802 form. He did inform the group that shutter attachments covering only the glazing on a door are inadequately attached. Nobody ever had to look at the attachments of the panel brackets before that under the MSFH inspection protocols. Except for confirming wood panel conformances with code. There has never been and probably will never be any authorized instructional presentation regarding the proper way to fill out the 1802 form. There will be misrepresentaton, and confusion, stupidity and fraud. These insurance companies are going to be suing inspectors if we get a hurricane.

[Dennis J. Bonner]

i have not heard of any inspectors getting sued after hurricane wilma, and we lost a lot of roofs here in broward county. Most of the older inspections i re-do are wrong. Now, the requirement of certification make the inspector more culpable, in my case- am putting my license on the line every time i perform, sign, and submit each inspection. I am in no way optimistic about the future of the wind-mitigation program, but do believe it is becoming somewhat more legitimate.