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Old 2/5/09, 8:57 PM
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Default New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2010/2260.pdf



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Old 2/5/09, 9:01 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

Will be heard on Monday February 9th, 2009.



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Old 2/5/09, 9:33 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

I am not a fr****cking criminal. What the hell is this? Do other states require this? I will be there. I do not need to be fingerprinted, investigated by the KBI, or anything else listed in this bill just to be a home inspector and operate a ligimate business in this state. There has to be a right to privacy issue here. I am so pi**ed that I have not gotten by the first page. Dan, where are you?

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Old 2/5/09, 9:40 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

Page 8 lines 30-36 is an improvement.



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Old 2/5/09, 9:43 PM
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(c) All costs associated with obtaining a fingerprint record shall be
the responsibility of the applicant or registrant and are to be paid directly
to the board approved contractor providing the fingerprinting services.
The costs associated with obtaining a background or criminal history rec-
ord shall be paid to the board and shall be the responsibility of the ap-
plicant or registrant and shall not exceed $75.



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Old 2/5/09, 9:48 PM
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I guess they need to make more money somehow. This thing is way out of hand. Who wrote this? Why are these special interest groups so intent on putting us out of business? I will, somehow, continue to inspect "kitchen type appliances". I guess I will have to have an addendum for that. Nick, if page 8 lines 30 to 36 have been eleminated, then the line on page 3 line 11 means what?

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Old 2/5/09, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

I have not read the whole bill yet but I guess you could treat appliances as an auxiliary inspection.
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Old 2/5/09, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

In Missouri, there are a number of professions that have to get criminal background checks....teachers, certain health care workers, day care workers, etc.
They come in all the time to get fingerprinted....we print them, and they send it to the Missouri Highway Patrol, along with a $10 fee, and get the background check. Keeps convicted felons out....



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Old 2/5/09, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

Thanks James. I am calming down now. I just hate having 5 board members who, I bet, perform few inspections each year. Governments are just putting their fingers into everything. I do not like the State of Kansas, a state that I have lived in for 57 years become a socialist state. If I need to be fingerprinted, then home builders, contractors, repairmen and all real estate agents should be. There are far more complaints against them, and have far more arrests than home inspectors. Not at all fair.
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Old 2/5/09, 10:19 PM
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Gary, line 11 on page 3 is a mistake. Good catch.



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Old 2/5/09, 10:34 PM
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Oh. I did not know, Nick, that you are writing this bill. (HaHa). At least, we have some experience here, now that you are involved. I will be there Monday, since I have no inspections scheduled. Do you know where and what time? I still wished that Section 8 was cut out. I also hope that any test that the board requires, a book(s) will be provided for study. I still believe that this whole thing is really going to hurt the rural inspectors the most. In small counties, there will be no inspectors. They cannot afford the education, registration expenses, travel expenses, etc. when they do only 50 to 100 per year. Oh, I forgot. The house rep in central Kansas who owns his own HVAC company will cover that.

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Old 2/5/09, 11:24 PM
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HB 2260 has been set for hearing at 9:00 am on Monday the 9th at room 784 in the Docking building in Topeka.



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Old 2/5/09, 11:26 PM
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Thanks Nick.
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Old 2/5/09, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

What happen to the number of inspections and the number of years in the field? I am missing something?
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Old 2/5/09, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: New Kansas home inspector Bill, HB 2260

Page 8 line 40 through page 9 line 9. However, looks like even if I have performed over 3,000 inspections I will still have to take the "proctored" exam: page 8 line 34. It is late, and several of us are still decipering the thing.
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