NEW Txas roof standard

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jcahill

In 1996 (before your time)

Living proof that old men can inspect houses...

[John Cahill]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

I would probably spend more time reading all the proposed changes... but I have heard so many for so many years... it is hard for me to stay interested in it. The vast vast majority of the rumors and changes have never happened. BTW...I have read the proposed SoP, but had to force myself to do it...

Mike is right. Larry has cut a deal with the TREC Chairman in the back hallways to get them passed in October with implementation in January. We knew that 6 months ago.

There is a way to delay them but I am not going there. I say pass em and I will adjust as needed. It's really simple.

You are right . . . they are a terrible read. The average consumer will be easily mislead but then very few will ever read the blather.

One big difference between them and INACHI is the requirement to get on the roof. Again, easy to handle however.

[John McKenna]

I think the biggest thing that bothered me was the idea of spelling 'Texas' another way.
Wait till all the bar-b-que restaurants hear that they have start changing all their signs..!

[John Cahill]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Living proof that old men can inspect houses...

I get the address; look it up on Google Earth; check the tax roles; write the report then drive over to take a picture and explain the findings.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by jcahill

I get the address; look it up on Google Earth; check the tax roles; write the report then drive over to take a picture and explain the findings.

You sound like the local tax assessor.

[John Cahill]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

I think the biggest thing that bothered me was the idea of spelling 'Texas' another way.
Wait till all the bar-b-que restaurants hear that they have start changing all their signs..!

Only the ones that spell it Barbecue will get upset. The others are used to acronyms.

I use Txas when I refer to over regulation and socialism. If it gets worse we might as well change the name to California or as Arnold says Colley forn nea.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jcahill

The proposed Standard (SoP) states “inspect fastening of roof covering material, as determined by a random sampling”.

What this means. According to SoP Chairman Fred Willcox, he pries up composition tabs using a putty knife and looks at fastener on every roof. He then reseals the shingle with mastic. Mr. Willcox, the SoP Chairman for the past 12 years has been trying to get this into the SoP for 12 years. It has been in, then taken out, then put back in. Fred told the sub committee on a recording that he puts crazy stuff into the SoP as a negotiating tool for other items. I think this is a similar and poorly conceived effort. It is also evidence of poor technical writing skills when you bastardize a document for negotiating purposes. Peeling up tabs on shingles is destructive inspection and the legislation will be words no one follows. The majority of roofs we see have a demonstrated history of acceptable performance and even in the event of a wind blow off the consumer is protected by insurance.

The scenario is even more ludicrous when other types of roof materials are considered.

Am I going to object to it? No. I think Mr. Willcox’s lack of foresight is his legacy. Its wonderful proof of regulatory irresponsibility. Let it stand and I’ll laugh at Txas with the rest of the country.

Now for those of you who ask “Why are guys like this put on committee?”. The answer is they serve the desires of the Realtors and bureaucrats and justify it with “protect the public”. Left wing politics in Txas.

I thought there were no left wings in Texas, even birds flew without one!!

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

I'm shocked by the comments on this board. I agree with this Wilcox guy 100% on measuring fasteners. Fo over 10 years my guys are required to do that BUT I never thought about resealing them. We use a crow bar, pull a couple shingles or shakes or tiles out, measure then tell the seller he passed (almost all do), then move on to the next component.

After they've passed, we've never had a seller complain about putting them back themselves AND if they fail - the roofer can put them back.

Guys learn to be a big boy and take charge ..........

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by dbowers

I'm shocked by the comments on this board. I agree with this Wilcox guy 100% on measuring fasteners. Fo over 10 years my guys are required to do that BUT I never thought about resealing them. We use a crow bar, pull a couple shingles or shakes or tiles out, measure then tell the seller he passed (almost all do), then move on to the next component.

After they've passed, we've never had a seller complain about putting them back themselves AND if they fail - the roofer can put them back.

Guys learn to be a big boy and take charge ..........

Funny Dan

You can get a bigger sample by using a roofing spade!!

Regards

Gerry

[Michael R. Boyett]

Gerry...thanks for clearing that up!! I must be pretty naive..I read Dan's post and pretty much believed him and just shook my head and headed off to an inspection. Glad I read your response

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by mboyett

Gerry...thanks for clearing that up!! I must be pretty naive..I read Dan's post and pretty much believed him and just shook my head and headed off to an inspection. Glad I read your response

Who said we were kidding Mike?

Here's my "sampling tool"




Regards

Gerry