New wind mitigation inspection form and proposed rule changes released by FL OIR.

[Brian C. Hoagland]

Originally Posted by gbell

It is hard to take someone serious when they don't know the difference between There and Their.

What is it that you have agaisnt this guy I don't know about? So far he has been the single advocate for this on this site and he is HERE. I have only seen info that is truthful and accurrate on his posts. Not a great time for division in the ranks now felllas. Same goes for you Gerry B. What's the beef?

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by bhoagland

Same goes for you Gerry B. What's the beef?

Brian, appoligies, it's been a long day I'll answer fully tomorrow, but personaly I find Jose' to be disengenuous at best. The issues surrounding the 1802 are extremely complicated (including some FL statutes) and Home inspectors lack of legal standing in this state doesn't help.

Regards

Gerry

[Brian C. Hoagland]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

Brian, appoligies, it's been a long day I'll answer fully tomorrow, but personaly I find Jose' to be disengenuous at best. The issues surrounding the 1802 are extremely complicated (including some FL statutes) and Home inspectors lack of legal standing in this state doesn't help.

Regards

Gerry

I don't know what may have prompted your personal impressions regarding Mr. Uz. But I couldn't agree more that this is a complicated issue and that HI's in this state lack representation and I actually feel that we lost ground in the process with the DBPR stakeholder meetings.

[Dennis J. Bonner]

what's all the drama about.... hi licensing, the new oir form, who can do wind inspections, or reinspection contracts? this is like a wind inspector soap opera for petes sake. seriously though, whats the gig? Is there some vast wind conspiracy going on behind closed doors somewhere? Are we plotting to take down the wce's-bravely following our fearless leader, general uz. As for me, im not sure about uz's 500,000 word wind history lessons but am quite impressed by his vocabulary and anacronyms. Anyway, I look foward to any hateful replies.

[Jose F. Uz]

Brian,

Yes, many legal issue that not being an attorney I would not be properly educated for interpretation, I also know that Gerry isn't one either. I will tell something several attorney's have looked at this, Charles Curtis in Ft. Lauderdale which is an administrative law attorney, Jeff Norkin from Sunrise, Steve Pave from Miami and a team of attorney's from the FES have all looked at this and agree with my position as well as others I care not discuss now.

You are always going to find 2 sides to every issue, Brian; some will benefit greatly with more wind mit restrictions placed on HI's this is the truth, the vast majority of us won't. Read carefully those which attack me and you will realize that they have sold themselves out, a couple of scraps was enough to purchase integrity. You see our Congress and Senate selling us out everyday to special interests in the news. do you believe that everyone is ethical? read on Gerry admits to be in bed just look at his posts. You will always find a Benedict Arnold in every issue, thank you for your support.

Jose'

[Jose F. Uz]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

yes i have relationships with many former wce's

regards

gerry

Need we say more !!!!!! Confession is good for the soul !!!!!!

[Jose F. Uz]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

relationships with many former WCE's these relationships have benefited hundreds of iNACHI inspectors over the last 5 years (One instance alone generated 14,000 inspections for iNACHI members after Hurricane Wilma, all done by InterNACHI members)


Regards

Gerry

Everyone; Check your facts before allowing your thoughts to be influenced.

FACT #1

Hurricane Wilma in 2005 affected the U.S. state of Florida in late October.
(Find this fact at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_Hurricane_Wilma_in_Florida)


FACT #2

In 2006, state lawmakers took action and appropriated $250 million to create the My Safe Florida Home program. (Find this fact at http://www.mysafefloridahome.com/abouttheprogram.asp)


You see Guy’s liars are easily had; all you have to do is check the facts. How can Gerry’s relationship with the WCE’s have generated 14,000 inspections for InterNachi after Hurricane Wilma if the WCE’s didn’t exist? Ask yourselves who is self serving? I keep hearing around the State from not only InterNachi inspectors but from ASHI and others like GC’s and PE’s how they have been reduced to a $50.00 “Gross” inspector, is this what you’ve worked for?

[Omar Lopez]

I have attended Mr. Uz's classes before; I also known the man for a long time, he's always been very passionate and has always spoken in plural and inclusive of everyone. The notion that he is self serving is completely false. This Gerry guy is nothing but a sellout, in reading everyone’s posts I can't help but notice the defensive nature towards the WCE companies that Gerry puts up, while I only see Jose Uz's focus and passion on fairness, equality and opportunity for all. I support those ideals, open market not closed markets. Why should a few decide who gets inspections and who doesn't, what does Gerry have in the works, maybe his own little piece of the WCE pie. I don't know but it sure looks like it.

This Gerry dud seems to have a pre-planed agenda, if he didn’t why would he challenge Uz, I mean if we all get lucky and the market would change and InterNachi would be included and recognized in these contracts with insurance companies and stuff wouldn’t he benefit also. So why the lies and controversy, or does this maybe looks like Gerry would actually benefit from WCE success. I mean look who is supporting InterNachi and look who is standing up for the WCEs. I’ll go with the guy that doesn’t side with special interest thanks.

O. Lopez

[Greg Bell]

Jose,

I really don't know you or remember meeting you. I am sorry if my previous post offended you. It was not meant as a personnel attack. I see that mistake being made over and over on the board, this just happened to be the thread that I made a post about it on.

It is apparent to me that the special interests (Agents, Contractors, Engineers and Former WCEs) are really influencing our pending legislation. With that being the case I trust no one that is a member of the special interests groups.

[Greg Bell]

Jose,

You should really check the facts before making such statements about Gerry. If you had been here for more than a year then you would know what Gerry has done for NACHI members. The relationships with the WCEs were formed long before there were any WCEs. Many NACHI members did work during the 04 and 05 hurricanes for companies that went on too become WCEs. Gerry was the first one fighting to make education a priority at NACHI. Many of the first online courses were written by Gerry. Gerry has traveled around the country providing NACHI chapters with education.

I didn't copy your post as I hope you will remove it once you realize the mistake that you have made.

[Greg Bell]

Originally Posted by bhoagland

What is it that you have against this guy I don't know about? So far he has been the single advocate for this on this site and he is HERE. I have only seen info that is truthful and accurate on his posts. Not a great time for division in the ranks now fellas. Same goes for you Gerry B. What's the beef?

I don't trust anyone that is a part of the special interest groups. I don't see that they have our best interests at heart. Unfortunately we could never come together as an industry and have allowed other groups to influence rules that affect us. So I guess we really only have ourselves to blame.

We will just have to wait a couple of years to see how it works out.

[Jose F. Uz]

Greg,

I know you meant no harm you seem to be a man with a good heart and reasonable to boot I can tell by your sincerity. I hope you understand why I have responded as aggressively as I have. I feel that the unity that you yourself state hasn't happened and that I am trying to create is undermined by any notion that the WCE's are at this time any good for the industry in general.

I was really taken by surprise by Gerry's comments and you have to admit what they seem to look like. That all might be true about Gerry and his efforts, but that is no excuse for undermining my efforts. I ask you, what is so wrong about my challenge to the establishment? I have always considered myself a gentleman and maybe both Gerry and I let our emotions run wild. I am willing to make peace as long as we all have an understanding that I am working for the BEST INTEREST of us all. My interest are with InterNachi not WCE's or any other group. Before my firm was a qualified engineering or surveying firm we have been an INSPECTION firm first and still are.

I consider myself less fortunate in the fact that I did not truly understand or know what InterNachi was about until late last year if not I would have been a part of this wonderful organization a long time ago. Maybe at some point the MSFH program had the best of intentions, but we all have to admit that greed has taken a hold and the never ending quest for power is running ramped. Just because I establish a relationship with someone because of mutual interest at a certain point and time, does not mean that this relationship is eternal and that our views and goals can not erode or change. I am not perfect, but I have only good intentions for all of us.
Jose'

[John Shishilla]

Originally Posted by juz

Exposure of SWR is not a fact all the time, sometimes you may have decking constructed of T & G or the OSB or Plywood may have been installed without spacing or H-clips. How about peel and stick instead of foam.

This is all by design.

Regards,

Jose'

Roof penetrations or letter from the roofer.

[Jose F. Uz]

Originally Posted by jshishilla

Roof penetrations or letter from the roofer.

100% true, I thought you meant at sheathing joints only, documentation is king.

Good talk to you, hope your doing good.

Regards,

Jose'

[John Shishilla]

Originally Posted by juz

100% true, I thought you meant at sheathing joints only, documentation is king.

Good talk to you, hope your doing good.

Regards,

Jose'

Doing very well, thanks. Business is good.