Nick / Kansas Education

[David Moriconi]

Nick I thought I just read you were volunteering to be on the Kansas Board Education Committee.

The below curriculum of a large Kansas Metropolitan Community College seems to have the new board requirement in place.

Subject: Kansas Home Inspection Training


It looks like the Education Criteria for Kansas may have already been set. I was under the mistaken impression based on the 1st Kansas Board Meeting, that we had formed a committee to establish the criteria. Wonder why we're even bothering with a committee, if somebodies have already set the rules ..... why bother.

One of the local KC guys saw this and sent it to me this weekend. Its out of the NEW Johnson County Kansas Community College's Spring Catalog. It looks at 1st glance like the Instructor already knows what course criteria, educational provider criteria, and which Associations test has ALREADY been been approved.

Home Inspection Training - Mechanical Components -- Registration Info

The state of Kansas has passed legislation that will require individuals that want to become home inspectors to have 80 hours of education. This course meets the first half of that requirement. This course prepares you to become a home inspector by training you to pass the National Home Inspector's exam and the American Society of Home Inspector's exam. Topics covered include the history of the inspection industry; an overview of plumbing, electrical, air and heating systems; and how to write reports. Classroom instruction will feature hands-on displays of electrical panels, furnaces, plumbing fixtures, and more. You will accompany the instructor on an actual home inspection. Books and study materials may be purchased through Midwest Inspectors Institute. You must also take the Mechanical Component course to meet KS requirements for training.
CRN 21233 Course No. XNR 6002 001
Sun/Sat 08:00 am - 04:59 pm
March, 7th - March, 21st
Instructor: Thomas Lauhon
Fees: $1,350


Home Inspection Training - Structural Components --

Registration Info

The state of Kansas has passed legislation that will require individuals that want to become home inspectors to have 80 hours of education. This course meets the second half of that requirement. This course prepares you to become a home inspector by training you to pass the National Home Inspector's exam and the American Society of Home Inspector's exam. Topics covered include the history of the inspection industry; structure quality (including walls, windows, doors and frames); foundations and roofs; and how to write reports. Classroom instruction will feature hands-on displays of frames, windows, roofing materials, and more. You will accompany the instructor on an actual home inspection. Books and study materials may be purchased through Midwest Inspectors Institute. You must also take the Structural Component course to meet KS requirements for training.
CRN 21234 Course No. XNR 6003 001
Sun/Sat 08:00 am - 04:59 pm
March, 28th - April, 11th
Instructor: Thomas Lauhon
Fees: $1,350

[Nick Gromicko]

----- Original Message -----
From: RESINSPECT@aol.com
To: nick.gromicko@nachi.org
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: Kansas Education


Nick I just received a phone call regarding a post on you message board from Dave Moriconi regarding an approved inspector training class for Johnson county community College. This is NOT an approved class the Board has not even discussed the topic since our last meeting. NO curriculum has been discussed let alone approved. The notice also indicates that the class prepares you for the ASHI exam. A discussion about approving an exam has yet to even be brought to the table let alone approved. I have pulled off the contact information for the college and will call them tomorrow to get this pulled. The State Board of Regents must approve the curriculum and is very strict about accurate advertising if not pulled immediately we will turn this matter over to them. If you have other questions, please let me know
Jeff Barnes

[David Moriconi]

Jeff Barnes writes "A discussion about approving an exam has yet to even be brought to the table let alone approved. I have pulled off the contact information for the college and will call them tomorrow to get this pulled.

Good Luck Jeff , I do believe this is only 1 course of MANY various courses offered by the college and in print form of a catalog that gets mailed to HUNDREDS of recipients of Kansas

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

I just got back in town this PM and saw this post. In my own mailbox I have the catalog with the 2 courses advertised in it. There are probably 10,000 Thousand OR more of these catalogs out there AND its posted on JCCC's web site. Even if for some reason JCCC pulled it off the web - there will still be all the catalogs out there.

Each of the 2 ads say:

"The state of Kansas has passed legislation that will require individuals that want to become home inspectors to have 80 hours of education. This course meets the first half of that requirement. This course prepares you to become a home inspector by training you to pass the National Home Inspector's exam and the American Society of Home Inspector's exam".

#1 - To be gramatically correct, the ad does not say its course is approved by the Kansas Home Inspection Review Board, etc.

#2 - The Kansas State Board of Regents has NOTHING do with approving an 80 hr training class for home inspectors anymore than they do with the classes being taught for pre-licensing Realtors, Appraisers, General Contractors, Lead Inspectors, Asbestos Inspectors, Termite Inspectors, UNLESS someone is trying to structure the home inspection bill's rules / language to restrict entry by normal trades type groups AND steer it to Corporate Type Training Schools OR those trainers affiliating themselves to Giant Vo-Tech Schools OR Community Colleges.

Since I'm sure we don't have anybody trying to pull that crap, I'm guessing this whole thing is a big POS mistake OR somebody just got eager OR phrased their words in a way easily misunderstood.