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Old 4/23/06, 12:25 PM
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Jay

That I do understand, but the larger issue is the same old points of people trying to get to the GF point by getting into price wars, the new person trying to get into the industry 2 years from now that comes out of a diploma mill - insurance going up - and requiring a statement of # of inspections or years in profession.

I wonder what the long term changes this will have on the Florida Profession such as less client problems??

Jay have you had any thoughts of logic - for or against sent to you?

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Old 4/23/06, 1:49 PM
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The majority of the for/against has not had the logic you may be seeking. The most educated insight and reasonings have been presented on this BB.



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Old 4/23/06, 1:54 PM
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The trend appears if you meet the GF clause you are for if not your against.
Priceless!



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Old 4/24/06, 8:44 PM
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04/24/06 HOUSE Pending review of CS -under Rule 6.3(b); Placed on Calendar
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Old 4/24/06, 11:19 PM
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I got my comments in the analysis for tomorrow's hearing, excerpts:
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----- Original Message -----
From: SUMNER.TRACY
To: nick gromicko
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: regulated home inspectors



Thanks Nick. Your comments are in the analysis.



----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: regulated home inspectors

We are hearing the home inspectors bill in committee on Tues at 9:30 am. You are welcome to come. Do you have any info about my question? We have to prepare analysis before the committee meeting.

Tracy Sumner
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Old 4/25/06, 3:26 PM
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Does anyone know how this would effect Charlotte county ? If they will just require a state license and get rid of their county requirements then I wouldn't have to retake the NHIE. I already passed it but not with a 560 or 555 or whatever they require. I'm getting ready to retake it now but I won't need to if Charlotte county won't require a seperate license after this bill passes.
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Old 4/25/06, 5:36 PM
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Does anyone know how many reading this bill has had in the house??

Jay I am sure you have posted this information but I can't seem to find it.

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Old 4/25/06, 5:41 PM
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I just got a phone call from the leg aid for my rep and he thinks the bill is dead

We will see -- It is not over until the fat lady sings - I hate it when people let words out like this as "opinions or thoughts" It give the other side time to call in the back up forces

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Old 4/25/06, 7:20 PM
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I hope it is dead.



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I just got a phone call from the leg aid for my rep and he thinks the bill is dead

We will see -- It is not over until the fat lady sings - I hate it when people let words out like this as "opinions or thoughts" It give the other side time to call in the back up forces

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That just doesn't add up when we have this reality...
On April 24, HB 161, which also would regulate mold assessment and remediation, was placed on the House Calendar. The bill can now be scheduled and considered by the full House on any day that the House is in session..


On April 25, the Senate Regulated Industries Committee voted to replace SB 2670 with a Committee Substitute by a vote of 10 to 0. SB 2670 is now very similar to the amended HB 161 and included regulation of mold assessment and remediation. The amended SB 2670 now will be referred to either the Senate Criminal Justice Committee or the Senate Judiciary Committee for review.


I would be very impressed if this thing were dead indeed.


Here is a link to the bill as introduced for your reference:

Here is a link to the bill with all but one of the amendments added by the Senate Regulated Industries Committee:

Here is a link to the amendment that changes “safety” to “occupational safety”:


Bill, The only way this bill would be considered dead is if it were to die in committee, which committee do you think will kill it?



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Old 4/25/06, 8:57 PM
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I do not know all the procedural actions that a bill must go through -- High school state government is too many years back, but I think it has something to do with how many times a bill is read or presented to the house (don't know about the senate)

In any case it looks like there might not be enough bandwidth left to get it through -- just a scheduling problem

That is why I ask the question as to has it been presented for its first reading etc.

Someone care to present state gov 101 ??

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Old 4/25/06, 10:35 PM
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Someone is going to have to hand carry it for it to make it vote.



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Old 4/26/06, 7:54 AM
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Joe

I do not know all the procedural actions that a bill must go through -- High school state government is too many years back, but I think it has something to do with how many times a bill is read or presented to the house (don't know about the senate)

In any case it looks like there might not be enough bandwidth left to get it through -- just a scheduling problem

That is why I ask the question as to has it been presented for its first reading etc.

Someone care to present state gov 101 ??

rlb
HB 161 CS - Building Assessment and Remediation

1st Reading - Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:59 PM

I see nothing stopping it now, remember there are powerful connected people who have devoted a great deal of time, effort & money to see this bill become law, as always money talks and bullsh!t walks... Always has, always will.



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Old 4/26/06, 12:23 PM
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Excerpt from the VETO letter from last year...........

The Governor stated that the bill was somewhat ambiguous and lacked clear guidance to the industry in some areas including, a lack of clear educational and examination requirements. While the bill required training, the Governor stated that there were no specifics regarding the kind of curriculum and/or standards necessary for home inspectors, mold assessors, or mold remediators. The Governor further stated that the bill appears to arbitrarily require high school and college degrees while presenting no clear reasons for the requirements.

It does not appear to have changed in this year's version.




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Old 4/26/06, 12:29 PM
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If it get to the Gov

Has He changed??

Time will tell

Shall we all go to his office with a news crew and do a sit in??


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