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Old 10/26/08, 10:49 AM
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Default Ohio residentail code roof ?

Does anyone know what is the current Ohio residential code is for roof decking? I was told that the spring of 2008 it changed. I am trying to find out
the decking thickness for 24oc. This is for a re-roof of a shed style roof of a garage with 2x6 rafters not trusses.
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Old 10/26/08, 1:00 PM
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If its a detached building would it even fall within the codes??
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Old 10/26/08, 8:44 PM
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The State of Ohio has adopted the IRC as its "code" reference. But any "code" would be a local thing and subject to the whim of the local AHJ. Ask him...or her (the AHJ).

The 2008 thing may hve been the rejection of the 2008 NEC because the new "code" "required" the use of AFCI, which was lobbied against by electricians and builders as being too expensive and the ACFI were too sensitive. The Governor then un-adopted the 2008 code and reverted to the 2005 edition.



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Default Re: Ohio residentail code roof ?

Thanks for the response so what you are saying to a layman is that 7/16" across a 24oc
is OK and the Building inspector should accept this?
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Old 10/27/08, 9:48 AM
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Phil your best bet is call your local building department and ask what they require...jim



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Default Re: Ohio residentail code roof ?

James that is the reason I am asking this question. I had some other builder come out to do other work when I was walking the roof it was extremely spongy he stated it was not up to code. when I contacted the building inspector she passed it, I feel it is not right.
When I asked her what they follow she stated Ohio Residential Code.
She also approved other things such as a header for a doorway that is definitely
not to code. That is why I am asking if someone has Ohio residential code rules so I can set my mind at ease.
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Old 10/27/08, 8:01 PM
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Phil...I'm sorry you are having these problems...I am not a code inspector but a home inspector...i can not tell you what to do but i can tell you if i was in the garage or attic and looked up and saw 7/16 on 24"centers I would not put my 240#'s up there...we live in ohio and there is plenty of snow load here... in my opinion that roof at best is going to sag....at worst is anybody's guess..not sure what else i can tell you but call me if you think i can help you.....jim



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Old 10/27/08, 8:54 PM
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Ohio has no specific roofing code, per se. One builder says it's OK...the next says "it's not up to code". Whose code is he referring to?

If the AHJ looked at the installation and said it is OK--then it is OK.

However, if you, as a home inspector, care to point out to a client that it might be a weak structure, you are free to do so. It is your opinion and that is what you were hired to do--give your opinion.

The client weighs all that has been learned--such as:

your opinion that it is weak,

builder A says it is OK,

builder B says "it is not code",

AHJ has no problem with the installation.

The client makes any decisions based on all of that knowledge--you deposit your fee and pay some bills--the builders can discuss any differing opinions between themselves--and the rest of us go to the nearest watering hole and down a few.



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Phil I know here many times I can find all references within the public library. Please consult with the code enforement officer and ask them the EXACT book, year and update number. If she cannot answer this then ask to speak to her superior. Just because an inspector says its right does not mean its right. I have YET to see a roof inspector walk on a roof here and any inspector go within the attic even though many items here are within the attic space.

Questioning authoirty is not wrong. This is YOUR house. I beleive in being pro active instead of reactive...Meaning, get it right BEFORE a problem occurs and not AFTER a problem occurs. Good luck, and tell the inspector to thank her uncle for getting he a job.
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Old 10/28/08, 3:22 PM
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Default Re: Ohio residentail code roof ?

I could be wrong, but I think its 5/8" minimum for 24" OC for IRC.

Ohio I don't know about
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Old 10/28/08, 3:48 PM
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Your only definitive source is here.



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Old 10/28/08, 3:56 PM
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7/16" 24 oc requires use of plywood clips.
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Old 10/29/08, 6:30 PM
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So - we're probably looking at 5/8" w/out clips and 7/16" with.

But as JB said - you have your own state codes that may be different than IRC, etc

Check the Ohio State Codes.
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Old 10/29/08, 6:47 PM
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Default Re: Ohio residentail code roof ?

With or with out clips over the years the 7/16" will bow. I see it all the time in mid Missouri. I just tell the buyer that is how it is done here such as not having any weep holes in brick. Need to watch closely for delamination in attic.
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Old 10/30/08, 12:35 AM
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I am from Ohio and was a Licensed contractor for 10 years Columbus area.
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