Should classrooms for home inspectors be outlawed in favor of online education?

[Nick Gromicko]

http://www.nachi.org/classroomsharm.htm

[Joe Farsetta]

Ths same logic would need to apply to elementary, secondary and college education as well.

Outlawed? You've got to be kidding me.

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by jfarsetta

Ths same logic would need to apply to elementary, secondary and college education as well.

Outlawed? You've got to be kidding me.

Ditto,

I am a big proponent of on-line education but it does have it's limitations, very many times over the last few years I have had students in class doing the classroom version of one of the online courses that I have written for NACHI, without fail they tell me that they get more out of the class by interacting with the instructor and fellow students.

I do think that more states should allow on-line CE though, if that is how local inspectors wish to learn at home.

Regards

Gerry

[Brian E. Kelly]

Perhaps Nick is in need of a Hyperbaric Chamber, or at least a few days at Sea Level may be in order.

[James F. McKee]

In a perfect world we would all have competent, quality ,continuing education classes available to us locally for a reasonable cost ....with the price of gas...time being what it is...(never enough of)...and the hassle of traveling...On line continuing education is a wonderful option and Nachi sure seems to be taking that Bull by the horns....thanks guys !!!!...jim

[Gary Farnsworth]

It really does not matter what classes you take. It does not matter what education or mechanical abilities you have. You cannot ignore, or beat, on the job training. New inspectors should have a minimum of 50 inspections with a highly qualified, experienced inspector before he/she goes out on his/her own.

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by gfarnsworth

It really does not matter what classes you take. It does not matter what education or mechanical abilities you have. You cannot ignore, or beat, on the job training. New inspectors should have a minimum of 50 inspections with a highly qualified, experienced inspector before he/she goes out on his/her own.

ASHI tried to write that into the last Missouri HI Law telling their members they could lower their rates by $100 to be super competitive...and then take along a couple of trainees for $75 per inspection, a piece.

Required mentoring is nothing but a scam. If an inspector makes the individual business decision to do this kind of training, that's fine...but no one should be making that decision for others.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

Ditto,

I am a big proponent of on-line education but it does have it's limitations, very many times over the last few years I have had students in class doing the classroom version of one of the online courses that I have written for NACHI, without fail they tell me that they get more out of the class by interacting with the instructor and fellow students.

I do think that more states should allow on-line CE though, if that is how local inspectors wish to learn at home.

Regards

Gerry

I'm finding that inspectors have been led to believe that all their training should be free or next to free. They have to get in the real world where nothing is really free even medicare!!!

I hope Nick can get this free training agenda going for doctors, so they can drop their prices down to ours and a hospital bed doesn't cost $1,800 per day or more!!! Lawyers and chartered accountants will be the next to convince that this system is better and cheaper so their rates can drop also!

[Nick Gromicko]

Brian writes:

I'm finding that inspectors have been led to believe that all their training should be free or next to free. They have to get in the real world where nothing is really free even medicare!!!

Uh, wrong. www.nachi.org/benefits.htm

Brian writes:

I hope Nick can get this free training agenda going for doctors, so they can drop their prices down to ours and a hospital bed doesn't cost $1,800 per day or more!!! Lawyers and chartered accountants will be the next to convince that this system is better and cheaper so their rates can drop also!

Uh, right. Our online and online video courses have already received Bar approval for the CE of lawyers.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by bkelly2

Perhaps Nick is in need of a Hyperbaric Chamber, or at least a few days at Sea Level may be in order.

Careful Brian!! I had one of my posts commenting on Nick's present state removed today.....talk about free speech............. and it didn't even contain any ^%$(*$#@@## words!!

Starting to feel like being back on the Mikey Holmes forum.......dissension not tolerated! And then the cult members gather round to protect the leader.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gfarnsworth

It really does not matter what classes you take. It does not matter what education or mechanical abilities you have. You cannot ignore, or beat, on the job training. New inspectors should have a minimum of 50 inspections with a highly qualified, experienced inspector before he/she goes out on his/her own.

Agreed!!!...............No!.....Strongly agreed!!!!

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

Brian writes:

Uh, wrong. www.nachi.org/benefits.htm

Brian writes:

Uh, right. Our online and online video courses have already received Bar approval for the CE of lawyers.

Lawyers don't go out and inspect houses with the reponsibilities/liabilities that go along with that function. It's most likely a bit of a general interest item for them or to better their knowledge of the HI industry so that when suits come along they're not starting at ZIP!!

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gromicko

free speech.

Nick, what ever happened to that? I've seen members curse and swear at each other worse than troopers on these boards with virtually nothing happening to them. Is that what the $289 buys?

[gbeaumont]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Careful Brian!! I had one of my posts commenting on Nick's present state removed today.....talk about free speech............. and it didn't even contain any ^%$(*$#@@## words!!

Starting to feel like being back on the Mikey Holmes forum.......dissension not tolerated! And then the cult members gather round to protect the leader.

Brian, that is very far from fair, both myself and Joe F have disagreed with Nick in this post (as we have on many others over the last 5-6 years) and I don't see any members slavishly following the cult here either!!

Please try to make your arguments fit the facts, rather than your beliefs fitting your motives.

Regards

Gerry

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by gbeaumont

Brian, that is very far from fair, both myself and Joe F have disagreed with Nick in this post (as we have on many others over the last 5-6 years) and I don't see any members slavishly following the cult here either!!

Please try to make your arguments fit the facts, rather than your beliefs fitting your motives.

Regards

Gerry

Well, let's see if Brian's post here or Rudolph Reusse's on another thread get removed. My removed post was in a similar vein but a little more strongly stated.