Thank You, Missouri Association of Realtors

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by psabados

Well Dan you're correct and your quote was in order too! Find a state thats not licensed and you will find several of the ASHI core group sniffing behind the NAR reps begging them to control the minions in the inspector corp. In many states that certain core group has continually tried to work with Realtors behind everybody elses back in introducing licensure favorable to them By working with the Realtors use their political influence to load up the licensing commission in their favor with their people. Then after everything is in place, watch them try to even take more control by pushing for limitations in reporting, its already happened in several states.

Oh by the way, don't forget about that wonderful money making NHIE program, without it that "A" org would be in serious trouble, wouldn't they? Oh yes, that just what we all need to be good little home inspectors

Paul

I don't know about ASHI National, but I have no doubt that the board members of the NHIE would trade their children for a the inside track to a licensing bill, and from all observations it appears they like their children.

[Erby Crofutt]

James,

Well written. Congratulations on getting it published.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Joe,
Just ask around what happen to Jeff the former Midwest ASHI chapter president when he spoke against the Missouri licensing bill.

[pcarter-old-04]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Joe,
Just ask around what happen to Jeff the former Midwest ASHI chapter president when he spoke against the Missouri licensing bill.

Please explain..........................

[James E. Braun, CMI]

Soon after he spoke out, ASHI National threatened him to take away his Realtor referrals and replaced him as president. The members of his chapter did not even get to vote. This is not the first time I have heard that ASHI members have been threaten by their own organization.
They do not even stop at that. At the last Missouri Housing Industry Alliance meeting Dirt Harry of the fake coalition (Missouri Association of Home Inspectors) threatened me because I corrected one of his misstatements at the meeting before. I was beside myself that somebody three months later would bring this up now. Just because I caught him lying about home inspectors, which he quickly corrected himself. The funny part at the end he said I was way out of my league, which I agree, when it comes to kissing the Missouri Association of Realtors butts he is the best I have seen.

[James H. Bushart]

Mr. Braun is a brave and valuable soldier in our fight against the ASHI leaders supporting the MAR efforts for licensing. Dirty Harry, the pres of the St. Louis Chapter, thinks he will be sitting on the Lic Board that his friends are creating for him. Even though the members of the St. Louis ASHI Chapter oppose licensing, Harry lies to them and tells them that he is simply involved in "monitoring" the licensing efforts. They are totally unaware of his very visible and active participation with MAR outside of the city.

Thanks for standing up to him and his cronies, Mr. Braun. You're my kind of guy.

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

Originally Posted by jbraun

Soon after he spoke out, ASHI National threatened him to take away his Realtor referrals and replaced him as president.

That would never happen here in Florida, we the local members decide who our leaders are not national, as it should be.

BTW Keep up the good fight against licensing.

[James E. Braun, CMI]

So are you saying there are actually some ASHI members with balls.

[dharris]

Originally Posted by jburkeson1

That would never happen here in Florida, we the local members decide who our leaders are not national, as it should be.

BTW Keep up the good fight against licensing.

But Joe.. This non -verified BS story is good national enquire stuff.
I have to wonder, how does a newly certified nickie -nacho inspector have so much info on ashi, more than ashi members..

[James E. Braun, CMI]

I actually listen to things with an open mind, then just running my mouth. You need to try it some time Dan.

[Joe Farsetta]

Still the Dick, eh Danny Boy?

It's time that all of us take our collective heads out of our asses, including you DH, and realize that we have been made pawns in all of this.

Anyone in the know is aware that we are being manipuilated. There are lots of good ASHI folk. There are lots of good NAHI folk. There are lots of good NACHI folk.

And there are lots of decent realtors who are not involved.

But, for you to once again turn information discussed on this message board into some sort of ****ing joke, proves what a complete ***** you really must be.

Do us all a favor, you supreme ****head, go walk your dog.

... DH our man, proving once again that his hatred for NACHI goes so deep that he cant admit to truth in anything posted, and cannot compliment anyone for saying anything useful if its on this BB.

What a total dick.

Until we, as professional inspectors, band together and put a lot of association chest-pounding temporarily on the back burner, we will forever be foraging for crumbs in the RE transaction. If a home sells for $400,000, and the buyers agent gets around 1%, that's $4000. The lawyer gets around $800. The home inspector has the highest liability, is put under the most pressure, is the go-to guy, and the everyman. In the end, we typically earn less than 1/10th of 1% of the transaction for our trouble.

What's wrong with this picture? We are the MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER in the transaction. Yet, we are treated worse than a bastard step-child. Some association "leaders" are kissing the asses of NAR players, and all for CONTROL. Same goes for licensing. It has NEVER helped the inspector. It has NEVER really helped the consumer. There was NEVER quantifiable data justifying the bogus claims at how ordinary people need to be protected from the big, bad, home inspector. We are still pawns.

We all need to ****ing wake up.

You too, Danny Boy. You too.

Now go ahead and tell us how ****ing busy you are. What a chump.

When you look in the mirror, do you laugh at what you see? How pathetic you are.

[dharris]

[quote=jfarsetta]Still the Dick, eh Danny Boy?

It's time that all of us take our collective heads out of our asses, including you DH, and realize that we have been made pawns in all of this.





Until we, as professional inspectors, band together and put a lot of association chest-pounding temporarily on the back burner, we will forever be foraging for crumbs in the RE transaction. If a home sells for $400,000, and the buyers agent gets around 1%, that's $4000. The lawyer gets around $800. The home inspector has the highest liability, is put under the most pressure, is the go-to guy, and the everyman. In the end, we typically earn less than 1/10th of 1% of the transaction for our trouble.

What's wrong with this picture? We are the MOST IMPORTANT PLAYER in the transaction. Yet, we are treated worse than a bastard step-child. Some association "leaders" are kissing the asses of NAR players, and all for CONTROL. Same goes for licensing. It has NEVER helped the inspector. It has NEVER really helped the consumer. There was NEVER quantifiable data justifying the bogus claims at how ordinary people need to be protected from the big, bad, home inspector. We are still pawns.

We all need to ****ing wake up.

Yep, a hu, got you joe. Hope I didn't tick you off tonight
All need to team together, yea right, impossible when you have one group certifing inspectors for a ck. the other requires proof of experience and taking a proctored exam.
Ain't gonna happen in the real world.

Licensing does work if inspectors work together, it will not when one org wants no requirements the other wants at least some.


Who said lic doesn't work besides members in your org?
The few naysayers in other orgs band together with other inspectors reguardless of org affiliation to make it work, instead of spredding lies and BS about other orgs, and other org inspectors on an open bb.



If lic and enforcement didn't work, one nickey certified only inspector would be still practicing in Washington state, there are hundreds more in other states with out license requirements that nobody has a clue of their qualificiations.

Now go ahead and tell us how ****ing busy you are. What a chump.

19 on the books to do, 2 of them referrals from local members that were to busy to do them.. You ?

[James H. Bushart]

In spite of the rah-rah nonsense from dog lovers in Arizona, it is a generally known fact in Missouri that the majority of home inspectors oppose licensing.

Even in St. Louis, the president of the ASHI chapter has to lie to his ASHI members (who also oppose licensing) and must conduct his business out of earshot.

The ASHI leaders from St. Louis, Kansas City and Columbia who are working with the MAR (with the expectation of being rewarded with seats on a licensing board, should there ever be one) have formed a phony "coalition" that they refer to as the Missouri Association of Home Inspectors (copied from the Missouri Association of Realtors, no doubt).

They have fooled a few of their members, but that's about it. They have no pull of their own with the legislature, aside from the MAR bought and paid for legislator who will be presenting their bill within the next three weeks.

Guess what these fools did.

They advised the rep to grandfather NACHI, NAHI and ASHI members thinking that this will quiet the opposition.

Think it will work?

Instead....they have provided the proof --- within the bill, itself --- that supports those arguing against it...that there is no need for it.

Home inspectors need to meet the standard or they don't.

To argue that hundreds of home inspectors in Missouri do not need to meet their licensing criteria (those who would be grandfathered) is to argue right along with the opposition...that the legislation is not necessary.

Ooops. I let the cat out of the bag, didn't I?

Future articles appearing in Missouri newspapers will be addressing this in much more detail...but first, we need to see the bill that the Missouri Association of Realtors have purchased with the assistance and advice of their prospective licensing board member ASHI presidents.

One of the articles will be asking "How much of the money paid by the Missouri Association of Realtors to their lobbyists came from sales commissions paid to them by Missouri consumers who have since lost their homes to foreclosure?"

This is going to be a fun year.

Before it's over, Missouri may become famous as the "FSBO State".

[dharris]

Future articles appearing in Missouri newspapers will be addressing this in much more detail...but first, we need to see the bill that the Missouri Association of Realtors have purchased with the assistance and advice of their prospective licensing board member ASHI presidents.

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How many more web based, blog type newspapers that nobody ever reads does Missouri have???

[Dan Bowers, CMI]

James -

Actually I'm an ASHI Member and I'm confused on part of this conversation.

There is a Mid-Missouri ASHI Chapter in the Columbia area, and a Midwest Pro-ASHI Chapter that covers Kansas City, Springfield, Des Moines, Lawrence and Wichita.

I have no idea who the Current or Past Presidents of Mid-Missouri ASHI are. There may or may not be a Jeff there. If any of them have had issues with National ASHI is unknown to us.

I was one of the 2-3 people that started the Midwest Pro-ASHI Chapter. We've never had a Chapter President named Jeff. One of our past Chapter Officers was Jeff Clark from Lawrence, KS (he is no longer an ASHI member). Another one of our Chapter Officers and a COR Rep (Council of Representatives to National ASHI) was named Jeffrey Fielder-Bey. He goes to the MHIA meetings in Jeff City periodically. We also had a John Kurtz that was a Chapter Officer that has attended the last several MHIA meetings (he also is no longer affiliated with ASHI).

In the Midwest Pro-ASHI Chapter we recently had one of National ASHI's headquarter staff members mess up their National Web Site and put a guy from Wichita (Jeff Barnes) in the Presidents Box. When actually he is not a Chapter Officer at all. That has been rectified. AND Jeff was in the fore front of working with legislators to introduce legislation - so he couldn't be who you're referring to.

I'm wondering if the previous posts refer to John K. or Jeff B. ??