U.S. Supreme Court gets it right on thwarting tyranny and gun control.

[David A. Andersen]

If you think you are safe in Canada because Handguns are banned, think again. I know of hundreds of handguns that made it through the Canada border and back by law-abiding-(well almost, seeing they broke the Canadian law)citizens. If these guys pull it off coming and going to Alaska, what about the guys that breaks the law for a living?

Alternate point: When guns are outlawed, gun owners become criminal. Thus, when guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.

[klott]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

We live next door to each other and have similar lifetyles, wealth, amenities, etc.

QUESTIONS:

Why are Americans murdering each other at 3-6 times the rate of other first world western countries?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ers-per-capita Maybe it's because of our open door policy, all of the other countries bad guys come here. Show me one instance, where a gun that killed someone, did not have a human behind it. Guns are nothing more than tools, take away guns, criminals will use knives, ice picks, piano wire, cars, furtilizer, planes,ball bats, poison, boats, pillows, hands, spoons, forks.....

Why are gun murder rates 5 times Canada's? Are you saying that even though handguns are illegal in Canada, they still have murder by guns? that's proof that gun control does not work.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...rms-per-capita
10 times the population.

Why are murders by youth 6 times higher than Canada's?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...ths-per-capita

See # 2 answer.

[klott]

This is for you Brian. Pay attention to the last sentence.

[jbettencourt]

I am not a gun owner but I could care less whethter some one wishes to own one or not. Canada on a per capita basis has just about as many legally owned guns as the U.S. You can't go to a home in northern Ontario or through many farmers and ranchers properties out west and not find at least one if not several hunting rifles and shotguns. I live in a city of 500,000 and I could probanbly name at least 50 friends that I know that own a rifle. It is not a gun but the mind set of the person who's hands it is in that is dangerous. Banning is not a solution, I want someone to show me where banning a certain item EVER STOPPED it's use in criminal activity before.

[bdoles2]

I was able to sit in a Burger King today on MLK Blvd and safely enjoy my Whopper w/cheese, because of this !

Go ahead, try and steal my Whopper and see what happens!

[Joseph Burkeson, CMI]

From my cold dead hand...

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by bdoles2

I was able to sit in a Burger King today on MLK Blvd and safely enjoy my Whopper w/cheese, because of this !

Go ahead, try and steal my Whopper and see what happens!

It was probably because the whopper burger you set on the table with
a sign on it that said "steal me"... had a string attached to the trigger
of your .44 magnum, that was pointed at the burger. Your going to
have to be a little more subtle about this if your going to get any takers...

Sounds like you guys in Georgia are pretty happy now with the new and
improved hand gun laws. Congrats.!

A guy in Texas just shot two burglers next to his house and the grand
jury said "no bill"... you did the right thing!!! Got to love it..

Every burglar in Texas just wet in their pants.

[bdoles2]

Now I can "carry" the next time I see the local chapter fighting for licensing!

(just kidding, no not really)

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

It was probably because the whopper burger you set on the table with
a sign on it that said "steal me"... had a string attached to the trigger
of your .44 magnum, that was pointed at the burger. Your going to
have to be a little more subtle about this if your going to get any takers...

Sounds like you guys in Georgia are pretty happy now with the new and
improved hand gun laws. Congrats.!

A guy in Texas just shot two burglers next to his house and the grand
jury said "no bill"... you did the right thing!!! Got to love it..
GUNS.......the old way to solve problems.......still in fashion!!

Every burglar in Texas just wet in their pants.

Or worse, they'll start bringing guns on their burgalries!! Yahoo!! The wild west lives again.......where men can be men........and die like men!!

Is there that much crime in your country that you feel you have to carry guns for self-defense?.........Sad!

From the Brady Campaign:
"For example, during a year when over 5,000 teens and children died from gun wounds in the USA, in Great Britain, where gun ownership is very restricted, 19 teens and children died from gun wounds."


The US has almost exactly 5 times the Great Britain population (61 million) so at a population of 305 million, Great Britain would experience 95 teen and child deaths from guns.........a far cry from 5000!!!

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/r...9_1c8guns.html

[Doug Edwards, CMI]

Just to set the record straight for Brian.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...ime-rates.html

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewa...ask-crime.html

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Or worse, they'll start bringing guns on their burgalries!! Yahoo!! The wild west lives again.......where men can be men........and die like men!!

Is there that much crime in your country that you feel you have to carry guns for self-defense?.........Sad!

From the Brady Campaign:
"For example, during a year when over 5,000 teens and children died from gun wounds in the USA, in Great Britain, where gun ownership is very restricted, 19 teens and children died from gun wounds."


The US has almost exactly 5 times the Great Britain population (61 million) so at a population of 305 million, Great Britain would experience 95 teen and child deaths from guns.........a far cry from 5000!!!

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/r...9_1c8guns.html

Figures lie and liars figure.
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvintl.html

Also, countries that take away the peoples guns experience an increase in crime.

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by dedwards

Just to set the record straight for Brian.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top...ime-rates.html

Try this one.....seems this site is a bit more reliable:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...mes-per-capita


or this one:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms

Your population is 10 times ours. So to adjust the figures up to 300 million for ourselves, we have 1440 firearms murders versus 9369 for the US.

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

Try this one.....seems this site is a bit more reliable:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...mes-per-capita

Your link list England as having a higher crime rate than the U.S.

Consider what has happened in England since they banned guns....

In the two years following the 1997 handgun ban, the use of handguns in crime rose by 40 percent, and the upward trend has continued. From April to November 2001, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 percent. Gun crime is just part of an increasingly lawless environment. From 1991 to 1995, crimes against the person in England's inner cities increased 91 percent. And in the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled. Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. England's rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America's, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S., where burglars admit to fearing armed homeowners more than the police. In a United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations published in July, England and Wales led the Western world's crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people.


http://www.reason.com/news/show/28582.html

[Brian A. MacNeish]

Originally Posted by jmckenna1

Figures lie and liars figure.
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvintl.html

Also, countries that take away the peoples guns experience an increase in crime.

That last line sounds like some of Nick's spinning getting to your reasoning!!

John:
From the chart in your supplied website:

Compare Finland, Switzerland, Austria, Canada with the US in both homicides and suicides.

% of homicides by guns
Finland: 26.5
Swiss: 43.9
Austria: 35.9
US: 65.3
Canada: 32.4


% of suicides by guns
Finland: 21.2
Swiss: 26.4
Austria: 18.4
US: 60.9
Canada: 28.2

From your supplied info, John, anything stick out in your opinion?

[John McKenna]

Originally Posted by Brian A. MacNeish

That last line sounds like some of Nick's spinning getting to your reasoning!!

Nick is my brother...

Regarding the numbers.... the U.S. is not a place for sissies.