Washington Home Inspectors Poll

[wforsyth]

Originally Posted by lcapaul

Have you checked you website Lately? Or isn't that advertising, for example have you ever gone in to check sheetrock and found a puddle of water under a window and the sheetrock wet? Wouldn't you report that to someone?



No I don't believe they always do. 2 years is a requirement by most.

No. The mortgage companies only are interested in the things they request in the forms. I asked when I first started because I saw so much poor construction.
Also, even if I did report it to someone, it would only apply if put into a WDO report in a real estate transaction.

As to requirements being checked. We went over my resume and qualifications over the phone and did a phone interview. They know exactly how long I've been in business, how long I was in it at the time they hired me, and what licenses I do and do not have.

So. There you have it. At least seven different companies think I am qualified to work for them. As well as one or two other inspectors who get very good reviews in regards to my reports that I write for them. Someone must think I'm qualified.

I guess your opinion doesn't matter.

[dhelm]

Getting back to the original intent of the thread, it appears that Senators Spanel and Koehl-Wells will be looking at the proposal this next week. Regardless of where you stand on this issue, if you wish to have any input, now is the time to contact these two senators and whoever you are a direct constituent of to tell them your feelings and thoughts. If we don't involve ourselves now, something that someone else wants will be in place.

[Peter Doane]

Originally Posted by dhelm

Getting back to the original intent of the thread, it appears that Senators Spanel and Koehl-Wells will be looking at the proposal this next week. Regardless of where you stand on this issue, if you wish to have any input, now is the time to contact these two senators and whoever you are a direct constituent of to tell them your feelings and thoughts. If we don't involve ourselves now, something that someone else wants will be in place.

Thanks for the update David. I took the liberty to find their contact information for everyone interested.

Here are links to their websites respectfully. Please make your opinion known. Its your right, your business and your livelyhood. Email is on their website.

Senator Harriet Spanel
Majority Caucus Chair
http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/spanel

Senator Jeanne Kohl-Welles
36th Legislative District
http://www1.leg.wa.gov/senate/kohl-welles

[dhelm]

Thanks Peter, why don't you post that on the new thread. This one has drifted so far I felt it necessary to start a new one.

[lcapaul]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

No. The mortgage companies only are interested in the things they request in the forms. I asked when I first started because I saw so much poor construction.
Also, even if I did report it to someone, it would only apply if put into a WDO report in a real estate transaction.

As to requirements being checked. We went over my resume and qualifications over the phone and did a phone interview. They know exactly how long I've been in business, how long I was in it at the time they hired me, and what licenses I do and do not have.

So. There you have it. At least seven different companies think I am qualified to work for them. As well as one or two other inspectors who get very good reviews in regards to my reports that I write for them. Someone must think I'm qualified.

I guess your opinion doesn't matter.

There you go Wendy, you are Fully Qualified Draw Inspector, I won't even argue about that, but then someone doesn't really need to be a Home Inspector to do Draws.

[James H. Bushart]

Lewis...

If you have evidence that Wendy has violated the code of ethics by refusing to comply with her state laws, you should present your proof with a complaint to the ESOP Committee for review. That would be the proper way of dealing with this. Your present method is a bit too Canadian.

If you lack the proof to formalize your complaint, you should refrain from making charges publicly that you cannot prove.

In either case, continuing this crap is a waste.

[wforsyth]

Thank you James.

[lcapaul]

I've already put her back on ignore James. I posted the State law that requires SPI Licensing, and some of the statements from the WSDA, many of us have spent many hours over the years arguing with Dr. Soumi who runs the program.

Not just Wendy but many NACHI Inspectors in Washington do not have the required License, if you go back a few months you'll see where Wendy had claimed she was doing Home Inspections, if you look in this thread you'll see where she claimed she was doing Commercial Inspections, now she's down to saying she does only draws, yet if you go to "Find an Inspector in Brinnon, WA and go to her Website you'll see that she is still advertising that she does complet Home Inspections.

This all started months ago when she was feeding new inspector sher version of the Law and telling them that they didn't need the License. Then Wendy and another Inspector from this side of the State got pi$$ed because my website and brochures mention that a Client should make sure that whatever Inspector they hire is Licesned by WSDA as required, they claimed I was trying to "Run them out of Business", while they were acting in violation f the Law. A NACHI Member cannot perform Home Inspections in Washington without the SPI License, unless they do not report any condititions conducive to WDO, if they don't report them they are in violation of the SOP, if the do they are inviolation of the COE unless they have the license. I really don't care if they ever get a license myself, but without it they should remove their names from "Find an Inspector" until they do.

The problem is that if anyone, like an ASHI or NAHI Inspector that want to make all NACHI Inspectors look bad, were to check the number of unlicensed NACHI Inspectors, and compare that to the number of unlicensed ASHI Inspectors, especially here in the East Part of the State, NACHI, and therefore its licensed inspectors, would appear to "inferior" because so many of its members refuse to obey even the preset law, a law that really does suck. The WSDA SPI webpage won't be back up until
Feb 1, then you can check, go to find an inspector, Spokane Washington and say a 30 mile or so radius, when I last checked there were around 20 Inspectors, only 4 are licensed, checking the ASHI Inspectors in the same area 2 out of 19 were licensed, as a customer or a Realtor who didn'tknow anything about Inspector Associations, which organization would look the most reputable? By association, the NACHI INspectors who do comply could have their reputations damaged by Wendy and the others.

They can do what ever they want as far as I'm concerned, just don't link their activities to NACHI until they comply, that means too links from NACHI to websites that advertise complete Home Inspections, If they can't comply with the present Laws, they shouldn't have much to say about any proposed law for or against it

[James H. Bushart]

Originally Posted by lcapaul

The problem is that if anyone, like an ASHI or NAHI Inspector that want to make all NACHI Inspectors look bad...

If?

ASHI and NAHI have chapters whose sole agenda is to make (or try to make) NACHI look bad. One of the most common ways they do this is to put forth their legislative model...mirrored in the proposal that now rests before you from your (ahem) "coalition" of NAHI and ASHI members. They are establishing before your congress that, basically, ASHI's membership criteria is the minimum acceptable standard for anyone considering entering the field. That is ridiculous.

If you were to provide licenses for WDO to every NACHI member in Washington, there would be no increase in respect for NACHI among your ASHI/NAHI folks...nor any decrease in their attempts to discredit us.

If you have evidence of wrongdoing on the part of a NACHI member(s) in Washington, report it. If you don't, perhaps it is time to refocus your concern with those attempting to affect your business through this legislative effort.

[wforsyth]

That is a bald faced lie Lewis.

I was telling a new inspector that they needed to follow the law, and you came on here and said that how could I tell them that when I was practicing home inspections without having the license.

I have said from the beginning that I have not done anything against the law. Whether that means I do draws, commercial, evaluations for home owners not selling their homes and clearly excluding WDO's, all of it shows that I am NOT breaking the law!

Now, YOU however, have broken the SOP rules that prohibit treating a fellow member in the way you have and I am NOW formally filing a complaint against you Lewis, and anyone else who keeps slandering me, and asking that the proper actions be taken.

Since all of the evidence has been witnessed by all here, I shouldn't have to submit the actual written proof, it's here for all to see. However, I do have ALL of it available and am ready and able to submit it to the committee.

Thank you very much,
Wendy Forsyth

[lcapaul]

If you were to provide licenses for WDO to every NACHI member in Washington, there would be no increase in respect for NACHI among your ASHI/NAHI folks...nor any decrease in their attempts to discredit us.

It wouldn't lead to any gain in respect, but they couldn't go to the Realtors and use the big discrepency in licensing numbers as a marketing weapon.

I've only had a couple of Realtors give me the ASHI lecture, most don't seem to care, they like the E&O Insurance, my truck no longer has NACHI decals, they blew off, and my new business cards,Brocures, and websites will only have a very minimal NACHI presence

If you have evidence of wrongdoing on the part of a NACHI member(s) in Washington, report it. If you don't, perhaps it is time to refocus your concern with those attempting to affect your business through this legislative effort.

I showed you the Law and the WSDA letters, there are more, but those I posted get the point across, at the bottom of at least one of the is Dr. Soumi's email, he can anwer all the questions any one has about the matter, I told you how you could check "Find and Inspector" and compare it against the WSDA SPI list, it's NACHI's reputation that faces damage, not mine, if I'm ever asked I can just say I complained about it for months but no one at NACHI other than me gave a damn.

Advertising that you provide a service that you cannot legally provide violates the COE under several of it's provision i.e. 1-2,3,5 and 3-3, along with 1-10 if the Inspector reports any WDO Conducive conditions in their report. The WSDA opinion is that the Inspector is still in violation even if he/she uses a LIcensed SPI as a Sub. That's there opinion, not mine.

YOu're the ESOP committee, it's jour job to police COE violations, not mine, I just use those violations against them in my marketing, not by name but as a warning to customers and Realtors, if they want to cry about that, then I'll argue, along with laughing.

And James, I can multi-task, my letters to various Senators and REps are mostly written, a couple of differnet versions, one saying both SB 6229 and the "Board's proposal are crap (more politely of course) and another saying that some of the proposals are good BUT parts need to be eliminated or modified, I haven't decided which one to send yet.

Like I said earlier, If the guys over on the west side can come to a consensus I'll support them, but there are only 3 other NACHI Inspectors on this side of the State that I would even listen to, but there are a quite a few pretty good ASHI guys that I refer Washington Inspections to when I can't do them, why would I refer any to an unlicensed Inspector?

I'm done with Wendy on this matter, I won't "drift" so far on this matter again.

[wforsyth]

Another bald faced lie Lewis.

It is stated very clearly that you may use another WDO inspector. Just that the report have a WDO report number.

[wforsyth]

Read my website again Lewis. Would you like some quotes?

[wforsyth]

From my website:

Will the Wendy Forsyth Home Inspections do my termite inspection if needed?
Inspector Wendy's Home Inspections inspectors do NOT perform termite inspections. Tip: Some home inspectors who perform a termite inspection along with the general home inspection, may only have minimum experience and working under the license of another company. If you would like to hire your own termite company make sure to hire a company who is licenced and certified to perform termite inspections.

It's on the FAQ page.

I'm waiting for the retractions. Or maybe I won't wait. Just sue.

[Stephen W. Stanczyk]

Originally Posted by wforsyth

From my website:

Will the Wendy Forsyth Home Inspections do my termite inspection if needed?
Inspector Wendy's Home Inspections inspectors do NOT perform termite inspections. Tip: Some home inspectors who perform a termite inspection along with the general home inspection, may only have minimum experience and working under the license of another company. If you would like to hire your own termite company make sure to hire a company who is licenced and certified to perform termite inspections.

It's on the FAQ page.

I'm waiting for the retractions. Or maybe I won't wait. Just sue.

What about a small leak at the kitchen sink? That falls under the WDO/WDI report. Say that is the only thing found to go on the report. Who reports it?