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Old 11/2/08, 3:50 PM
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Stephen Stanczyk -

You're missing a very important point. As a 25 year ASHI member, we don't have the time, money or anything else to try and sue everybody that says something like:

I follow the generally accepted SOP of the Amercican Society of Home Inspectors. When the east coast crowd brought this up - Many ASHI Board members thought it was stupid because it could not reasonably be enforced. But it was passed .......

I bet I can say: I eat at McDonalds and the Golden Arches and I like them so much I try and make similar meals at home -

Nobody is gonna sue me.
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Old 11/2/08, 3:56 PM
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Kansas will be adopting InterNACHI's SOP....
If it is adopted verbatim with acknowledgment then that would be a coup of unprecedented proportions. Even without acknowledgement it would be huge. I truly hope that comes to pass.



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Old 11/2/08, 8:33 PM
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I have asked several times. How is the new Kansas home inspectors bill going to be enforced? Kansas has no money. Are the RE/agents going to do it? How do other states enforce their inspector laws? Is Jeff Barnes going to go with us on every inspection? Even if you are licensed, you will still bend the SOP, no matter who's you use. Ah, Clint Eastwood.
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Old 11/2/08, 8:50 PM
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Gary, Gary -

My naive young innocent - trust our Kansas realtors to find a way to pay for the important things in life, even if they have to take milk from starving babies OR healthcare from senior citizens. They will find a way.

When its as important to protect "National Security" as regulating Kansas Home Inspectors - they'll come through for us.

Yeah Realtors ?????
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I've never really noticed the tags on the threads. Have they always been there? And not moderated?
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Old 11/2/08, 10:45 PM
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They are the lost hanging chads of Florida past. I wondered where they went. I believe legislatures considered the missing chads a national security issue.
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Old 11/29/08, 12:27 PM
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This message is for Jame B. and Nick G.
This conversation would be better kept private rather than open discusion.
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Old 11/29/08, 1:05 PM
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Dennis Fackler
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Dennis -- you live in a state where the factions and special interests that would gain by a licensing law successfully got one signed. Most of this happened outside of earshot and under the radar...where those who opposed it would have little time to form an opposition and respond.

Likewise, in Kansas, the proponents of this legislation kept their opposition in the dark while pretending to be a "coalition" representing all home inspectors. Many well meaning Kansas inspectors thought they should remain silent so as not to harm their business relationships with realtors...only to find them rejecting them once the law was passed, anyway.

Silence and secrecy is what the bad guy needs to push through a bad bill that benefits him and other special interests. Such things seem to wilt and lose their momentum once they come under the scrutiny of the public eye and those who will be adversely affected have the opportunity to speak out on them.

No sir...silence is the tool of the proponent of HI legislation. This is one of the reasons they preach that it is "inevitable" and that the opponents to it should simply accept it.

I will not take this off the board and, frankly, if more Florida inspectors had come forth and done likewise you would not be looking at the ridiculous law that looms before you.



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Old 11/29/08, 2:46 PM
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http://www.kansascity.com/news/break...ry/913012.html

Revenue down, deficit getting larger, and a new law that won't generate enough income to buy a lunch for the legislators that passed it. Even our blonde governor knows when its time to move out to DC to get a better government job with Obama.



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Old 11/29/08, 9:49 PM
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Lets just pray theres enough money there to set up and fund our new Kansas HI Board. I can't tell you how disappointed a certain profession; 1 lobbyist; and a home inspector or two would be.

So lets be hopeful; they can take milk from starving babies; shelter from old folks or the homeless; and health care from wounded veterans - BUT - for something as important to the KAR and National Security DO NOT cheat the states home inspectors out of the IMMENSELY needed Bill that KAR and a few helpers jammed up everyones *****.
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Old 11/30/08, 1:34 PM
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Kansas $1 billion under budget. Florida $3 billion. California governor wants bailed out. And they want to put money into laws that regulate home inspectors, that whom for years never needed regulation. You find a bad auto mechanic, find a better one. Home buyers should shop around, as when they do for a car salesman. Ask a friend, realtive. Web sites. 30+ years the home inspection industry was run this way. If the states ever take money from school lunch programs to fund home inspection boards, the governors, senators, all should be fired, and punished, just as they punish the kids. I am as mad as Dan.
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