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Old 7/20/07, 8:48 PM
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Several threads and several thousands of posts have been made as we discuss what the background should (and should not) be for one to qualify as a CMI.

For years, members of the "other" association have argued against NACHI's "certification" of its members.

Wait until you read the background requirements needed to run NAHI...

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Q What is the structure of your compensation scheme from


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1 the Harrington Company?
2 A Salary.
3 Q Straight salary?
4 A Yeah.
5 Q Is there any type of commission or incentive program in
6 place in addition to your salary?
7 A No.
8 Q Do you have a supervisor at the Harrington Company?
9 A John Francis is the president and majority owner, but I
10 am also a minority owner.
11 Q Is that a publicly held company or privately held?
12 A Privately. There are six of us.
13 Q And what is your percentage of the ownership in that?
14 A I don't even know. Like 10. I don't know. John is the
15 majority owner.
16 Q And what is the --- in general what is the line of
17 business of the Harrington Company?
18 A We provide association management services to nonprofit
19 associations. We manage between 20 to 25 nonprofits.
20 Q It's strictly nonprofits?
21 A Yes, sir.
22 Q Do you manage -- do you personally manage any nonprofits
23 other than NAHI?
24 A No, no. NAHI is a national account and that is
25 definitely enough for one person.


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1 Q So since you came to be employed at the Harrington
2 Company has the NAHI account been your sole account?
3 A Yes. I had a couple little accounts, but NAHI got too
4 big.
5 Q Is there a written description of your job position or
6 job duties?
7 A The Harrington has written responsibilities generically,
8 but it really is on an account by account basis.
9 Q Can you summarize what the responsibilities for somebody
10 in your position are?
11 A With my responsibilities with NAHI I basically manage
12 the whole -- all aspects of the account for the board of
13 directors. I report to the NAHI board of directors, and
14 so I handle -- we handle everything from accounting
15 membership, marketing, PR chapters, web site,
16 legislation, I oversee all that. I'm sure I'm leaving
17 out -- conferences, education.
18 Q Then NAHI pays the Harrington Company for those
19 services?
20 A Yes.
21 Q And how much does NAHI pay for the -- I'm sorry. How
22 much does NAHI pay for those services?
23 A Depending on the year. This year's contract is $44 an
24 hour per human.
25 Q Is the contract renegotiated each year?


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1 A We have a three year -- NAHI has a three year contract
2 with Harrington.
3 Q And if I understood what you just said, the amount
4 that's billed to NAHI depends on the amount of hours?
5 A Yes. It is billed on an hourly basis, $44 per hour.
6 Q Whose hours are we talking about? Primarily your hours?
7 A Me, the director of government affairs and the two
8 membership coordinators, so there are four total staff
9 people.
10 Q And do those hours vary from week to week, month to
11 month?
12 A Yeah, pretty typically they vary. One of our membership
13 coordinators works on a different account as well, so --
14 Q Then does the Harrington Company invoice NAHI every
15 month for --
16 A Yes.
17 Q -- for the amount of hours that were involved that
18 month?
19 A Yes.
20 Q Where did you work prior to coming to work for the
21 Harrington Company?
22 A I worked for a medical device company called Mentor.
23 Q What does that company do?
24 A Well, actually they have been sold now, but back then
25 they were a developer of catheters and penile implants.


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1 Q What did you do for that company?
2 A I worked for the executive vice president of quality and
3 regulatory assurance.
4 Q What were your duties?
5 A I worked for the VP doing executive secretarial work and
6 then I also had a staff of six managers that had
7 everything to do with FDA approvals, TUV, audit
8 approvals, maintaining -- when you get into medical
9 devices it's all paperwork. You have to follow a very
10 rigorous protocol in doing and changing any specific
11 little item on the catheter or the penile implant.



This deposition is a very interesting and revealing document. I'll share some more tidbits as soon as I am finished laughing at this one.
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Old 7/20/07, 9:01 PM
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Thanks for sharing, Harvey....
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Old 7/20/07, 9:04 PM
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Default Re: You are not going to believe this....

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbushart
Several threads and several thousands of posts have been made as we discuss what the background should (and should not) be for one to qualify as a CMI.

For years, members of the "other" association have argued against NACHI's "certification" of its members.

Wait until you read the background requirements needed to run NAHI...

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This deposition is a very interesting and revealing document. I'll share some more tidbits as soon as I am finished laughing at this one.
Thanks James this is fantastic .

I see the training he received at the last Company helps him very much in his new job.

00014---25 they were a developer of catheters and penile implants.


00015---11 little item on the catheter or the penile implant

I wonder how many appreciate what he is doing to them.... Cookie
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Old 7/20/07, 9:09 PM
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Old 7/20/07, 9:12 PM
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Well...maybe her previous work experience was not directly related to the home inspection field...but...what about her education?

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5 Q Where did you go to attend college?
6 A Jamestown College, Jamestown, North Dakota.
7 Q What did you study at Jamestown?
8 A I got two bachelor's degrees in four years, the first
9 one in personnel management, the second one in
10 psychology concentrating on chemical dependency.



Hhhmmmm....an expert in fake pee-pees and junkies. We're getting warm....
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Old 7/20/07, 9:13 PM
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Thanks James this is fantastic
How small you're world must be....

What exactly did any of you do before your current career? Were you born Home Inspectors?
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Old 7/20/07, 9:15 PM
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Comedians and Priests
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Old 7/20/07, 9:16 PM
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Old 7/20/07, 9:16 PM
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How small you're world must be....

What exactly did any of you do before your current career? Were you born Home Inspectors?
I worked in Quality Control in a factory that made fake vaginas.
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Old 7/20/07, 9:20 PM
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I'm laughing so hard I can't breathe... LOL!



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Old 7/20/07, 9:23 PM
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It has to be a HARD job!
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Old 7/20/07, 9:25 PM
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I worked in Quality Control in a factory that made fake vaginas.
That explains your complete lack of technical posts on any bulletin board. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 7/20/07, 9:25 PM
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Be careful, guys.....

NAHI is watching you!!!

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22 Q What information -- how would you have information
23 concerning the NACHI membership and the states of
24 residence of its members that long ago?
25 A Well, we keep files on our competitors.


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1 Q What kind of files does NAHI keep on its competitors?
2 A Well, just anything that seems questionable or of
3 interest or that has to deal with laws or anything like
4 that.
5 Q So I'm still --
6 A Position papers, stuff like that.
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Old 7/20/07, 9:26 PM
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Lol!



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Old 7/20/07, 9:26 PM
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I thought Nahi was a Home inspection org., I had no idea, it was a PENILE institution, or would that be colony?
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