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Old 11/22/08, 4:10 PM
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This roof is coming up on its first winter. Any comments about how these areas were handled?
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Old 11/22/08, 4:41 PM
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Looks like they've made some excellent funnels to shove water under some of the shakes.
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Old 11/22/08, 5:17 PM
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My client says the roofer told them that the staples for attaching shingles over the membrane in the areas without shingles would cause leaks in the membrane. He told them this is an acceptable practice. There are also some flashing issues which should be corrected.
Another roofer tells my client that that the whole roof needs to be replaced saying it won't last the snowy winter.
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Old 11/22/08, 6:48 PM
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First pic is real questionable. Not sure about the others. Just not enough detail for me to tell.
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Old 11/22/08, 6:53 PM
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See this

http://www.cedarbureau.org/installat...manual-p10.pdf

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http://www.cedarbureau.org/installation/roof-manual.htm
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Old 11/22/08, 6:57 PM
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In the first picture why would the flashing go under the membrane????.....warning....Danger Will Robinson....



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Old 11/22/08, 7:00 PM
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In the first picture why would the flashing go under the membrane????.....warning....Danger Will Robinson....
Are you saying I wasn't seeing things???
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In the first picture why would the flashing go under the membrane????.....warning....Danger Will Robinson....
Good catch
You should win some sort of prize.
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Old 11/22/08, 7:03 PM
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Are you saying I wasn't seeing things???
that's the way it looks to Me frank...bass akwards is my guess...



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Old 11/22/08, 7:16 PM
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OK Another question. On the back and sides of the chimney. Is the membrane cut flush with the chimney where it penetrates the roof??????
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Old 11/22/08, 7:27 PM
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OK Another question. On the back and sides of the chimney. Is the membrane cut flush with the chimney where it penetrates the roof??????
sorry can't help you with that one from that picture Frank...



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Old 11/22/08, 7:47 PM
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On the back and sides of the chimney it is uncertain where the membrane ends. The finish masonry was applied over the membrane.

On another chimney the finish masonry was applied over the shakes. See photo #2159.

Back to the exposed membrane on steep slopes without shakes. Is there an acceptable argument for not putting shakes on the areas with adequate slope? Is there a more acceptable procedure over the areas with less slope? See photos in original post.

Some of the exposed areas are visible from the ground. See photos #2338, 2387.
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Old 11/22/08, 8:49 PM
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"Back to the exposed membrane on steep slopes without shakes. Is there an acceptable argument for not putting shakes on the areas with adequate slope? Is there a more acceptable procedure over the areas with less slope? See photos in original post." The membrane was used to open up some areas that shakes would have interferred with the water flow. The lowest points of those areas don't appear to be open enough. Personally, I would have preferred 20 oz. copper, or lead coated copper, flat-locked and sweated together. Not totally familiar with SBS and APP membranes, but only consider them to have a 10 year life. Shakes are 'supposed' to last 40 years. Doesn't make sense.
As for the other chimney. Where is the water to exit at eave? Looks like it drains into/behind the stone veneer.
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Old 11/22/08, 9:46 PM
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Lack of kickout diverter.



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Old 11/23/08, 12:57 PM
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On the other chimney, since the finish masonry was set above the shakes, kick-outs were formed with the mortar.

Some kick-outs were absent at other areas.
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